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Scottish Government win review for the right to place men in women's prisons

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ArabellaSaurus · 06/11/2025 12:07

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/snp-court-battle-to-allow-trans-women-in-female-prisons-rpn2dff79

https://archive.ph/Dw1Wl

'SNP ministers are to fight in court to defend the right of biologically male criminals who identify as women to serve sentences in female jails.
A KC representing the Scottish government told a judge at the Court of Session in Edinburgh on Wednesday that self-ID policies in jails will remain a “live issue” in a new legal case, suggesting ministers are determined to keep them in place'

'Gerry Moynihan KC, representing the Scottish government, confirmed that controversial schools guidance, which allowed trans girls into female facilities and for biological boys to compete in female sports, had been “withdrawn”.

However, he confirmed that the Scottish government did not plan to back down on its prisons policy, which was rewritten after <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/Dw1Wl/www.thetimes.com/uk/law/article/nicola-sturgeon-trans-women-isla-bryson-77g8zzbll" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the Isla Bryson scandal but still allows male-born criminals to serve sentences in women’s jails if they say they identify as female.'.

'For Women Scotland had wanted their bid to have the schools and prisons policies “reduced”, meaning quashed by the courts, to be conducted under an “ordinary” procedure, which it was hoped would be quicker, cheaper and more straightforward than a judicial review.
However, Moynihan successfully argued that the case should instead proceed under the more complex route, a move likely to lead to increased costs for taxpayers'
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'A timetable will be set in the coming weeks with a substantive hearing to decide matters expected to last two days.'

SNP court battle to allow trans women in female prisons

The Scottish government refuses to back down on its jails policy and has secured a review in the Court of Session, meaning a longer legal battle over the issue

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/snp-court-battle-to-allow-trans-women-in-female-prisons-rpn2dff79

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Brefugee · 06/11/2025 13:22

let's hope this is the mother of all Operation Let Them Speak actions.

AMansAManForAllThat · 06/11/2025 13:18

Igneococcus · 06/11/2025 12:19

This is insane but it might be useful to see what arguments they could possibly make.

That’s the only hopeful scenario. Otherwise it’s total bollocks.

Shedmistress · 06/11/2025 13:13

It is just relentless.

GrandmaMazur · 06/11/2025 13:02

FFS

CassOle · 06/11/2025 12:56

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/11/2025 12:18

The Scottish govt yet again saying the quiet bits out loud. That the rights of all the male sex offenders, rapists, murderers etc who claim to be women, matter far more to them than women.

'Rapist's Hill' has been a theme with some TRAs.

If men (who say they are women) aren't 'women', if they rape someone, they know that much of the public won't go along with calling men (who say they are women) 'women' even if they are law-abiding.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/11/2025 12:26

It might actually be beneficial to have this argued in court though. The lack of legal basis for men in women’s prisons seems clear. Unless they want to make them all mixed.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 06/11/2025 12:25

Appalling, but par for the course for SG. Where are the grown-ups?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/11/2025 12:24

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/11/2025 12:18

The Scottish govt yet again saying the quiet bits out loud. That the rights of all the male sex offenders, rapists, murderers etc who claim to be women, matter far more to them than women.

This.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/11/2025 12:23

FFS what arseholes.

solerolover · 06/11/2025 12:22

What a complete waste of tax payers money. Why is this the hill they want to die on?

Igneococcus · 06/11/2025 12:19

This is insane but it might be useful to see what arguments they could possibly make.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/11/2025 12:18

The Scottish govt yet again saying the quiet bits out loud. That the rights of all the male sex offenders, rapists, murderers etc who claim to be women, matter far more to them than women.

terryleather · 06/11/2025 12:18

Fighting with tax payer money to make sure men can be put in the female estate.

It’s so despicable it’s breathtaking but I’d expect nothing less from those that govern us up here.

Utter fuckers.

happydappy2 · 06/11/2025 12:14

disgusting waste of tax payers money-why on earth shouldn't women have a single sex prison? Utterly ridiculous