So, men have more rights than women to access female changing rooms

Poor Tish.Just watching all that was infuriating. Talk about wilfully clueless.

Yes, he said "women and cisgender women." A troll on another thread here said the same thing recently. I fumed when I saw that, but thought, oh well, it's just a troll on Mumsnet. But now I see a politician saying the same thing?!! Livid. 😡It must be their new agreed upon terminology. I bet they think saying women and transwomen is transphobic because it implies transwomen aren't women. So I guess the answer is to completely shit on and discount half the human race. As it usually is. 😡

Tish is doing a great job being straightforward about this. Typical weasel politician answer.

I just read the DM article - where the subtitles have "women and sister women", the DM has "women and cisgender women are brutalized in this country". Is he actually saying "women and cisgender women" rather than, say, "women and transwomen"? Are trans women now the default women?

Oh he's annoying isn't he. "We also know that we have trans people, both men and women, who are men and women." What does that even mean?

Then she tells them all about being harassed, and about the guy breaking his wife's jaw, and he says, "I also know that trans women are brutalized in this country." Because he can't actually address her points in any sensible way.

I think some of the subtitles are wrong by the way - I started to type more about "sister women", but I think that's not what he actually said. He's mumbling somewhat - maybe deliberately...

'I want to support you. I have millions of people behind me, watching this right now and we want to know, are you going to protect women?' she asked. 'Not trans women. Women. Women and trans women are a different thing.'

When an audience member interjected that 'trans women are women', Hyman dared to step on the third rail and declare: 'No they are not, they are men.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15281237/tish-hyman-scott-wiener-california-state-senator-transgender-alexis-black.html

Tish mentioned that he broke his wife's jaw, and they groaned

Surprise surprise the man is such a creep. Beating up his ex-wife and using her name. Urgh silence of the lambs vibes. You’d think it’d click for some of these supporters that it’s unusual for actual women to be so violent and creepy at this rate, so they might question if these people are the exact same as women.

It's all here.

The waffling from, oh yes, Senator Weiner

The woke Bros trying to smack her down with athe affirmative Mantra TWAW

The stunned muted silence from the mainly white progressive audience

The attempt at humour after she makes her exit and parting shot

Well, it's funny but with all due respect it's probably a typo. "V" is right next to "B" on the keyboard.

https://x.com/listen2tish/status/1988286400828240218

I've just come across this clip on x of Tish questioning a politician about women's safety. She's very good.

I really hate to say it but if anyone can make it happen (a Supreme Court ruling on this), it's Trump.

Edit to clarify that I'm replying to @HardyNavyBear re the American Supreme Court.

Unfortunately, living in a “blue state” in the US, women have no right to single sex spaces. I can’t go to a gym where I live because they allow men in. The state here even will take you kids from you in a custody battle if you don’t affirm them but your spouse does. It’s insane here. I hate the state I live in. The only thing that will help is here is the Supreme Court ruling similar to the UK. I believe it will happen but it won’t happen for another few years at least.

It is such a hard and fast learning curve. She has a lot to process.

I admire her bravery and honesty for publicly documenting her peaking and sharing her thinking with the world. She's going through what a lot of women go through, trying to be kind and empathetic while still standing up for women's rights. Sadly, that empathy and kindness is weaponised against women and I'm so impressed that Tish is seeing the traps inherent in the 'be kind' arguments so quickly.

More on the case utopia posted.

x.com/derrickevans4wv/status/1987332782624747812?s=46

I think Tish has been trying to work through a lot at a pace. She has now reached accurate language stage when it comes to discussing single sex provisions and who get access to what and accurately using language to explain it.

After deciding earlier that the transsexual label worked in her mind, she has now rethought that.

x.com/angijones/status/1987315124953358590?s=46

This is grim reading UtopiaPlanitia. Finding that cache of images of minors on Pinterest is not a surprise. But it is horrific that those images exist in the first place.

Found the original article I'd read regarding my post above:

https://reduxx.info/georgia-police-officer-under-investigation-after-asking-trans-identified-male-to-leave-womens-restroom/

I can’t find the original commentator’s video that I watched about this story but here’s another video on a male being challenged for entering female spaces and the challenger getting in trouble for sticking up for women and girls:

https://youtube.com/shorts/NJ6MI0SlNW4?si=l5QvQ6PRe4jqiQ-V

Here is another one that I noticed yesterday.

https://x.com/sarah_kally1/status/1986444653546381656?s=46

this one even had the police involved.

Tish, if you are reading this come over to the UK and claim asylum!

The usual "We've been using these for years" argument.

Not like that, somehow older generation transgender people were rarer and more respectful...

Aka they didn't get their dicks out in women's changing rooms.

They fought for reasonable rights like the right not to be sacked from a standard office job just for being transgender.

Perp also says he wouldn't use a mixed changing room as it would mean sharing with a trans man

https://nypost.com/2025/11/06/us-news/trans-person-accused-of-exposing-self-in-womans-locker-room-was-convicted-of-brutally-beating-ex-wife-before-taking-her-name/?utm_campaign=nypost&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

“You’re not going to put a trans woman with a trans man just because we’re trans,” he said, non-ironically.
“That seems like a whole new envelope of discrimination,” he charged.

When she (BADER. Sorry, typo 😂) died one of the epitaphs for her actually switched out "on the basis of sex", which was even the name of the film FFS, for on the basis of gender, with neutral People Pronouns. Bc the 2 are like the same? 🤐

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/aclu-ruth-bader-ginsburg-abortion-gender-neutral-b1928809.html#:~:text=Your%20support%20makes%20all%20the,York%20Times%20columnist%20Michelle%20Goldberg.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Yes, I’m familiar with the Notorious RBG, just not the Notorious RVG