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Sex Matters are asking you to email your MP this weekend

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PachacutisBadAuntie · 31/10/2025 18:03

Re the delay in publishing the EHRC guidance. Can't see a thread on this yet, please do email if you can.

sex-matters.org/take-action/write-to-your-mp-the-government-must-stand-up-for-womens-rights/

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lcakethereforeIam · 04/11/2025 22:16

I think the cherry on the garbled cake is the link to a Hansard debate about 'Support for Trans People'.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 04/11/2025 20:44

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lcakethereforeIam · 04/11/2025 20:27

That's what I took from it.

NoWordForFluffy · 04/11/2025 20:25

What about the trans people?!?! <wails>

Clearly not wanting to respect the judgment then. 🙄

lcakethereforeIam · 04/11/2025 20:22

This is the response I got from my MP, LD

Thank you for taking the time to contact me about women’s rights and the implications of the For Women Scotland v The Lord Advocate and Scottish Ministers judgment.

I appreciate you writing to me so thoughtfully on this deeply important and often sensitive topic. I understand your concerns about how the Equality Act is being interpreted and how that impacts single-sex spaces, services and opportunities. I also recognise your frustration at the lack of clarity that has, for too long, left service providers uncertain about what is lawful, and women and girls feeling that their dignity, privacy or safety may not always be properly protected.

The Liberal Democrats respect the ruling of the Supreme Court in For Women Scotland, as we do all judgments of the Supreme Court. I therefore feel that, as a priority, the Government must now provide further guidance and clarity on what this judgment means in practice. This guidance must ensure, as the ruling itself makes clear, that everyone’s rights and dignity are upheld, including those of women and trans people. The Liberal Democrats will keep pressing for this clarity from ministers.

However, I do recognise that the reporting and political debate around this judgment have unfortunately caused confusion and concern and in some cases inflamed an already toxic public conversation. I believe we must move beyond that toxicity. What people deserve – women, trans people, and everyone affected — is calm, good-faith dialogue about ensuring safety, dignity and fairness for all.

With regard to the forthcoming EHRC Code of Practice, we need to wait and see the final version before reaching definitive conclusions. Ultimately, the detail really matters, so we will scrutinise the guidance properly when it is published. However, the Liberal Democrats are clear: existing rights must be protected, including those of trans people and women.

This news has already caused understandable distress and uncertainty among many trans people. The Government must provide clear reassurance that any guidance will protect the dignity, safety and rights of all and ensure that trans people are not prevented from participating in parts of public life because there are no facilities they can safely use. We also need clarity for those responsible for implementing this guidance, including many charities, small businesses and local organisations.

The Liberal Democrats responded to the EHRC consultation. Our submission made clear that we believe the interim Code of Practice has not yet found that positive way forward. We raised a number of concerns about how these policies would protect trans people from discrimination and harassment, uphold their right to privacy and support inclusion in public spaces.

^In Parliament, my colleague Lisa Smart MP, the Liberal Democrat Women and Equalities Spokesperson, asked a question to the Government’s Women and Equalities Unit ministers on 3 September, calling for proper parliamentary scrutiny of the final guidance once published. You can read the exchange on Parliament’s website: hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2025-09-03/debates/5DB3D139-40F1-4D5D-90EA-DF7D63224900/SupportForTransPeople#contribution-EBBA0AAB-0F2C-45E1-8704-D75CF617F8B9^

Lisa also wrote, along with other Liberal Democrat MPs, to the Minister for Women and Equalities, Bridget Phillipson MP, on 8 September. That letter raised concerns that the interim EHRC guidance has left too many trans people anxious and excluded, and urged the Government to ensure the final version is debated and subject to a free vote in Parliament to help build trust and fairness in how these issues are resolved.

Thank you again for contacting me. I believe that women’s rights, and the rights of all individuals, must be treated with seriousness, respect, and compassion. We will only move forward constructively by rejecting division and engaging with one another in good faith. Please don’t hesitate to get in touch again if you have any further concerns.

I think it was a mail merge, it was addressed 'Dear [my initial]' and I wasn't that thoughtful 😃

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 03/11/2025 17:43

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moto748e · 03/11/2025 14:54

I have acceded to the wishes of the thread, and fired off the SM email this morning, so even as I speak, it is winging its way to the 'Evil Terf Bigots' folder! 😀

PachacutisBadAuntie · 03/11/2025 13:42

@DustyWindowsills that is very encouraging. The more we can get it on MPs' radar the better, and the more of them that might be coming round understand that they have some support the better as well.

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DustyWindowsills · 03/11/2025 10:29

I got a response from mine already, and he seems up to date with the issue. I'm really encouraged.

I'll digest it further after work.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 03/11/2025 08:55

Done, it's very quick and easy with their link.

hellowhaaat3632 · 03/11/2025 08:50

fanOfBen · 02/11/2025 22:16

Done, though without much hope of getting through to my MP.

Mine was very TWAW a few years ago, he's since come round. There's always hope (even if it's just them following the crowd). We need to get our voices heard (just like the TRAs have done)

fanOfBen · 02/11/2025 22:16

Done, though without much hope of getting through to my MP.

3beesinmybonnet · 02/11/2025 22:03

Done, and got DH to send it too.

71Alex · 02/11/2025 09:58

Done. I’ve written to my MP before about the data issue and got a ‘blah blah blah’ response so I’m expecting more of the same.

Planesmistakenforstars · 02/11/2025 01:46

Done. Mine does at least usually acknowledge, and sometimes reply, to these things. I am fairly certain he's not one of the handmaidens though, or doesn't identify as a handmaiden, since he's pissed off TRAs in the past.

paisley256 · 02/11/2025 00:05

Done

Shortshriftandlethal · 01/11/2025 21:12

NoWordForFluffy · 01/11/2025 15:30

I don't see that there's any obligation to provide a gender neutral option at all. You just need to provide men's, women's and disabled. Nothing says there has to be a gender neutral option.

I agree......but at most all that would need to be offered is a single gender neutral facility if one really wanted to be 'inclusive'.

IwantToRetire · 01/11/2025 20:34

I dont think the concern is about costs of changing or creating additional toilets.

Employers are terrified of the TRAs.

They are terrified there are going to be law suits, accusations of transphobia, mental health distress.

So even though on one level it is about reasonable, easy adjustment, that isn't they real problem.

The TRAs are in charge, and no one thinks women are important enought to take a stand for, even if the highest court in the land has told them that legally they should.

RayneBowTrout · 01/11/2025 20:18

Done! Thank you for the link; it ties in nicely with my last two emails that I recently sent my MP (Peter Kyle).

HildegardP · 01/11/2025 19:01

moto748e · 01/11/2025 00:19

Honestly, with the best will in the world, I would, but I doubt it'd get in front of her eyes anyway (the most I've ever had from previous emails was an auto acknowledgment from her office), and even if it did, what could I expect from someone who parades around in a "Protect the Dolls" t-shirt?

It's still worth sending an email. The more of us who do, the fewer votes they can assume are theirs. Eventually that does focus minds.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 01/11/2025 18:14

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NoWordForFluffy · 01/11/2025 15:30

Shortshriftandlethal · 01/11/2025 09:16

Most small pubs and restaurants tend already to have single occupancy facilities which anyone can use and sometimes an accessible toilet too. They would not need to change anything.

All that is required in many other instances is one additional self contained 'neutral' facility alongside the existing single sex provisions.

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I don't see that there's any obligation to provide a gender neutral option at all. You just need to provide men's, women's and disabled. Nothing says there has to be a gender neutral option.

Retiredfromthere · 01/11/2025 15:12

Shortshriftandlethal · 01/11/2025 09:16

Most small pubs and restaurants tend already to have single occupancy facilities which anyone can use and sometimes an accessible toilet too. They would not need to change anything.

All that is required in many other instances is one additional self contained 'neutral' facility alongside the existing single sex provisions.

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@Shortshriftandlethal agree
@NeatRoseOtter Many facilities that have incorrect labelling at present were originally male or female only facilities and the only thing that the business changed is the label. Which is why there are now gender neutral loos signed with with or without urinals. So just change the label back!

There are a few buildings which will have built unisex facilities in the past few years which are not university self-contained toilets - because they were taking Stonewall sourced advice. Perhaps these could be given longer to comply with the law.

What was particularly galling from looking at the businesses that signed the letter was that many will have no toilet facilities and not need them. For example mobile hairdressers. This was not a good faith letter.

Jammington · 01/11/2025 15:00

Done.
If anyone remembers 'plebgate' that's my guy.

I've messaged her m about womens rights before.
IIRC got a 'I'm not arsed' vibe from his reply - but he DID respond which is something.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/11/2025 14:53

Also done. Time to call the government to account for openly colluding with trans extremists trying to breach the law.