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Glamour Magazine UK celebrates nine men as Women Of The Year

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PoetryEmotion · 30/10/2025 12:56

As trans rights face increasing threat in the UK, Glamour honours nine of the community's most ground-breaking voices at this year's Women of the Year Awards. From fashion and music to charity and activism work, these trailblazers work tirelessly to empower, uplift and celebrate trans voices.

And naturally the article is written by Shon Faye 🙄

Archive link, so as not to give them the clicks:

https://archive.is/MiNAL

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Greyskybluesky · 31/10/2025 18:01

Someone posted JKR's tweet on AIBU:

"I grew up in an era when mainstream women’s magazines told girls they needed to be thinner and prettier. Now mainstream women’s magazines tell girls that men are better women than they are."

(Just to add: I do like it when this subject seeps out of FWR into AIBU)

Heggettypeg · 31/10/2025 14:52

Paste has to sparkle -
Sparkle is all it has got,
But diamond is diamond
Whether it sparkles or not.

MyCrushWithEyeliner · 31/10/2025 14:41

One of them says

‘I can do anything, and people feel very entitled to comment on the way I look or the way I act or the way I sound…’

Do they think that doesn’t happen to biological women?

And this delightful comment from someone else

‘Put some respect on it, bitch! I look better than you. I dress better than you. I smell better than you. Please learn that and understand that.‘

nicepotoftea · 31/10/2025 14:22

I think this might be getting more attention than it deserves, because people are assuming Glamour is still a glossy magazine, not a free website presumably funded by clicks.

MabelsBeats · 31/10/2025 14:15

This is absolutely disgusting, that rag should hang its head in shame.

Tiredofwhataboutery · 31/10/2025 14:15

@Theeyeballsinthesky thise filters are definitely doing some heavy lifting.

JellySaurus · 31/10/2025 14:10

I just caught the tail end of a TV interview with a trans-IDing man who said that the title was clickbait for some very thoughtful interviews with these men. (Obviously he didn’t call them men, but neither did I notice him using any pronouns at all.) Apparently, in these deeply insightful interviews the colonisers, sorry, women’s-award-winning men talked about how objectifying women’s bodies was a bad thing.

Such hypocrisy!

Seems to me that modifying men’s bodies in the attempt to resemble women’s bodies is a perfect example of objectifying women’s bodies.

Justwrong68 · 31/10/2025 12:58

Maya says: Put some respect on it, bitch! I look better than you. I dress better than you. I smell better than you. Please learn that and understand that. That’s what I would like for the dolls
i’m not sure this will help their plea

ArabellaSaurus · 31/10/2025 12:20

Oh, look:

Glamour UK figures for 2023, the most recent available on their website:

' Median (mid-point) gender pay gap in hourly base pay:
● Women’s median hourly pay in 2023 is 18.9% less than men’s
● The median hourly pay for women is £27.96 per hour, compared to £34.48 for men

Mean (average) gender pay gap in hourly base pay:
● Women’s mean hourly pay in 2023 is 27.3% less than men’s
● The mean hourly pay for women is £34.40 per hour, compared to £47.32 for men

Bonus Pay -

  1. Median (mid-point) gender pay gap in bonus pay: ● Women’s median bonus pay in 2023 is 14.1% less than men’s ● This pay gap has reduced from 15.2% in 2021, to 14.3% in 2022 to 14.1% in 2023
  1. Mean (average) gender pay gap in bonus pay: ● Women’s mean bonus pay in 2023 is 48.9% less than men’s ● This pay gap changed from 55.6% in 2021, to 47.7% in 2022 to 48.9% in 2023 '

https://www.condenast.com/privacy-pages/uk/reports

Condé Nast

https://www.condenast.com/privacy-pages/uk/reports

Helleofabore · 31/10/2025 12:05

Theeyeballsinthesky · 31/10/2025 11:43

Never under estimate the power of filters, airbrushing and strategic posing for example this is how Brianna wu looks on their X profile and the other is them in real life. I'll leave you to work out which is which.....

Edited

I believe that there was a tweet about Wu entering a female toilet and a group of young women all commented how 'gorgeous' Wu was and they swapped chat over reapplying make up.

It really sounded like 'and everyone got up and clapped'. And again, from a reader perspective, sounds like yet another example of where male people simply cannot understand the fawning reaction.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 31/10/2025 11:46

Theeyeballsinthesky · 31/10/2025 11:43

Never under estimate the power of filters, airbrushing and strategic posing for example this is how Brianna wu looks on their X profile and the other is them in real life. I'll leave you to work out which is which.....

Edited

And this is actual Brianna

Glamour Magazine UK celebrates nine men as Women Of The Year
RoostingHens · 31/10/2025 11:44

ZeldaFighter · 31/10/2025 11:08

I need to hand in my Terf badge - despite being told, a couple of those people fooled me 😞 or at least I wasn't 100% sure..

However, my DH should be awarded his Terf badge - i said spot the transwoman and he said All of them!!!

Magazine pictures have been photoshopped for decades. This photo is no exception.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 31/10/2025 11:43

ZeldaFighter · 31/10/2025 11:08

I need to hand in my Terf badge - despite being told, a couple of those people fooled me 😞 or at least I wasn't 100% sure..

However, my DH should be awarded his Terf badge - i said spot the transwoman and he said All of them!!!

Never under estimate the power of filters, airbrushing and strategic posing for example this is how Brianna wu looks on their X profile and the other is them in real life. I'll leave you to work out which is which.....

Glamour Magazine UK celebrates nine men as Women Of The Year
ZeldaFighter · 31/10/2025 11:08

I need to hand in my Terf badge - despite being told, a couple of those people fooled me 😞 or at least I wasn't 100% sure..

However, my DH should be awarded his Terf badge - i said spot the transwoman and he said All of them!!!

Helleofabore · 31/10/2025 10:31

ErrolTheDragon · 31/10/2025 09:26

Wtf exactly did he mean by ‘smell better’?Confused

I am guessing we smell like fish and those referred to by Faye don’t. I could be wrong, of course.

ArabellaSaurus · 31/10/2025 10:22

RoostingHens · 31/10/2025 10:19

One thing is abundantly clear - Glamour magazine doesn’t consider any on these men to actually be women.

No, just using them as clickbait.

I do actually agree with Willoughby here; its not 'activism' in any shape or form, it's purely prurient sensationalism.

ArabellaSaurus · 31/10/2025 10:20

ErrolTheDragon · 31/10/2025 09:26

Wtf exactly did he mean by ‘smell better’?Confused

I'd do my best not to even try to work that one out tbh.

RoostingHens · 31/10/2025 10:19

One thing is abundantly clear - Glamour magazine doesn’t consider any on these men to actually be women.

witheringrowan · 31/10/2025 10:16

Oh Shon has been through numerous identities. At university within the space of one year he was asexual, straight, bi, "undefined but going to be a catholic priest so it's immaterial anyway".

His straight relationship culminated in a massive argument during which he trashed his girlfriend's room and set half her clothes on fire. A real champion of women's rights.

merkinmanipulator · 31/10/2025 09:33

I don't understand how Faye can write this with a straight face given he used to write articles about how wonderful being a gay man was. Does he really want us to believe that he was just putting on an at? Come the fuck on.

nicepotoftea · 31/10/2025 09:30

Now, trans people – and especially trans women – are facing a committed attempt from anti-trans pressure groups and right-wing politicians to make exclusionary policy the default across British public life including toilets, changing rooms, leisure facilities, workplaces, hospital wards and crisis support services.

Yes, single sex women's facilities do, necessarily, exclude men.

The intention is clear: to drive us out of public life to repress, then deny our existence.

I think the intention is to increase acceptance of all kinds of men in men's facilities.

with a blanket ban on access to medication for trans people under 18.

Just treatment that has no evidence base and has been shown to cause harm, Not clear why Faye is arguing that these standards should be ignored.

ErrolTheDragon · 31/10/2025 09:26

Wtf exactly did he mean by ‘smell better’?Confused

Theeyeballsinthesky · 31/10/2025 09:23

Well this all seems very transphobic to me. "Protect the dolls" ie the TW who allegedly pass even without styling airbrushing and filters but not the "bricks" the TW who don't remotely pass

tut tut

tiddletoddles · 31/10/2025 09:18

I think people just need to understand, not only are we human, most of us are badder than everyone else. Put some respect on it, bitch! I look better than you. I dress better than you. I smell better than you. Please learn that and understand that. That’s what I would like for the dolls.

I just don't understand why I have to let a man have unbridled access to my spaces because he (allegedly) is better-looking than me. Apparently it's misogynistic to have the sole criterion of being a woman as being female, but saying someone is less of a woman because they're not attractive isn't misogynistic AT ALL.

I wish women would read stuff like this and wake the fuck up.

PoetryEmotion · 31/10/2025 09:17

DrBlackbird · 31/10/2025 08:38

Was your commentary not in the spirit of #bekind? With some new young TWAW mod hard at work trying to make the CG biddy mafia kinder. I wondered about that after seeing the thread on ignoring trolls was deleted. Tbf I would’ve fallen over myself beingkind myself in my 20s with the added benefit of feeling virtuous. It was JKR’s essay and this board that made me rethink that position.

I believe there was a reference to the not-female version of Willoughby's current name. I really don't know what else, I was only referring to Willoughby, not the blessed caste of all transwomen. So it didn't go against T&Cs.

I just said that he was clearly FEWMIN at not being in that article 😅

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