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Ocasio-Cortez vs Riley Gaines

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PopstarPoppy · 30/10/2025 10:53

Wow. Just…wow. It’s so depressing how many female misogynists there are, and how many are in powerful positions.

thehill.com/homenews/media/5576319-ocasio-cortez-mocks-riley-gaines/

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sanluca · 30/10/2025 12:48

PollyNomial · 30/10/2025 12:28

Because she's a bigot siding with fascists.

So what makes Gaines a bigot?

Saying womens sports means just for women
That allowing a man who ranked in the 600s into the women category where he ranked in the top 5 shows his advantage over women.
That forcing female athletes to change into swimsuits in the presence of male athletes is sexual harrasment. Changing into a racing swimming costume takes about 20 minutes and cannot be done under a towel.
That telling female athletes they needed therapy for objecting to male presence in the womens changing rooms when they were changing, is just wrong
That threatening to destroy any future career if they went to the press is just plain evil.

Gaines is not a bigot in protecting womens sports from cheats like Thomas and misguided illinformed people like you.

Helleofabore · 30/10/2025 12:43

Why is Riley Gaines a bigot?

And why should her words be discredited when she is discussing sport and her personal experience?

PopstarPoppy · 30/10/2025 12:33

PollyNomial · 30/10/2025 11:12

Fortunately RG isn't in a powerful position.

I presume you misinterpreted my post deliberately to be inflammatory, because otherwise you need to consult a dictionary.

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PollyNomial · 30/10/2025 12:28

NotAtMyAge · 30/10/2025 11:56

1.4 million followers on X gives her a wide reach. That is very much a form of power that many elected politicians might envy. Why else is AOC attacking her so viciously?

Because she's a bigot siding with fascists.

lcakethereforeIam · 30/10/2025 12:26

Here's Jo Bartosch's take in the Critic

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is letting women down | Josephine Bartosch | The Critic Magazine https://share.google/tXorQWfoZSHZ60ZCf

NotAtMyAge · 30/10/2025 11:56

PollyNomial · 30/10/2025 11:12

Fortunately RG isn't in a powerful position.

1.4 million followers on X gives her a wide reach. That is very much a form of power that many elected politicians might envy. Why else is AOC attacking her so viciously?

cramptramp · 30/10/2025 11:50

I wasn’t surprised by AOC. I think she’s a horrible person.

Helleofabore · 30/10/2025 11:48

It is discordant to hear that RG is considered to be not powerful in her activism. Considering how she has spoken on many events and hearings. She has supported the voices of the other women and girls who needed that encouragement.

I am not sure just what is needed for a woman to be considered powerful these days. Seems that being a significant part of the campaign to save women’s sport is not enough.

fromorbit · 30/10/2025 11:43

PollyNomial · 30/10/2025 11:12

Fortunately RG isn't in a powerful position.

RG is in a VERY powerful position because Congresswomen like AOC feel the need to talk about her again and again and share her story. If she wasn't powerful why mention her?

RG wants the Republicans to win the next elections.

AOC is working to the same end with this stuff. All AOC needs to do is keep saying men are not stronger than women, and women don't deserve to have sport and the Dems will keep losing.

Because it is so stupid it destroys everything else they say.

GoldThumb · 30/10/2025 11:35

‘Misogynistic dunce’

Nailed it

lcakethereforeIam · 30/10/2025 11:31

Isn't that a brand of orange?

RingoJuice · 30/10/2025 11:30

AOC obviously knows nothing about what it takes to be an elite athlete. Riley does.

PollyNomial · 30/10/2025 11:27

Not watched any C-SPAN coverage then.

lcakethereforeIam · 30/10/2025 11:25

Fortunately for AOC. If Riley Gaines was a Member of Congress she'd wipe the floor with her. Honestly, AOC provided more of a useful public service when she had a proper job serving behind a bar.

PollyNomial · 30/10/2025 11:12

PopstarPoppy · 30/10/2025 10:53

Wow. Just…wow. It’s so depressing how many female misogynists there are, and how many are in powerful positions.

thehill.com/homenews/media/5576319-ocasio-cortez-mocks-riley-gaines/

Fortunately RG isn't in a powerful position.

PopstarPoppy · 30/10/2025 11:04

Helleofabore · 30/10/2025 11:00

When I first saw it, I was very surprised by AOC. However, Simone Biles said something similar didn't she? I suspect that there are many people who have dismissed Riley and the other women's points using some similar points.

Remember there is a stream of feminists who believe that if female athletes train harder or differently, they will be fully competitive to male athletes.

The fact so many people believe that is also really depressing. There’s a reason why we have men’s and women’s sports in the first place.

One thing that amazes me about the whole trans debate is how many people (including many very ‘intelligent’ people working in science) can dismiss decades of scientific evidence because it doesn’t fit with an idealogical position they’ve wedded themselves to.

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Helleofabore · 30/10/2025 11:00

When I first saw it, I was very surprised by AOC. However, Simone Biles said something similar didn't she? I suspect that there are many people who have dismissed Riley and the other women's points using some similar points.

Remember there is a stream of feminists who believe that if female athletes train harder or differently, they will be fully competitive to male athletes.

LittleJustice · 30/10/2025 10:54

I saw this and thought it was a parody honestly I couldn't believe that an actual politician who's supposed to be a feminist would say something like that.

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