Thought I might translate some of this into plain English, so we can see the arguments more clearly:
I don't agree that men who demand entrance to women’s spaces should be held responsible for the violence of men who don’t demand access to women’s spaces any more than all lesbians should be held responsible for the violence of some lesbians.
Noteworthy here is that the group “some lesbians” is a subset of the group “all lesbians”, whereas the two groups of men described are separate.
Nor do I believe banning men who demand access to women’s spaces or lesbians from women’s spaces…
Nobody is demanding lesbians should be banned from using women’s spaces. Whatever follows, bear in mind that this particular argument is a straw man from this point on. Note also, in the original version, the straw man argument is doubled up, because instead of truthfully owning the fact that the discussion is about women’s facilities, the lie that the discussion is about all “public utilities” is inserted.
You know, I’m already thinking that, anyone who has to insert so many lies into their arguments, is probably so used to lying that they no longer know when they are doing it.
Anyway, having established that inserting lesbians into this argument is simply a red herring, I shall remove them so we can see what is really being argued is clearer.
Nor do I believe banning men who demand access to women’s spaces from women’s spaces would change the opportunistic nature of criminals
Well no, it wouldn’t change the opportunistic nature of criminals, that much is correct. What it would do however, is ensure that opportunistic male criminals are offered more opportunities to have access to women in spaces from which they previously could have more easily been excluded or expelled.
so in that sense I consider banning men who demand access to women’s spaces from women’s spaces an illogicality.
If, as a man, you want access to women’s spaces and don’t care that your access means that opportunistic male criminals will also gain access, then you probably would pretend you think women’s arguments are illogical. As we can see, someone here is being highly illogical, but it isn’t the women who want single sex spaces.
As a male person, I can’t really appreciate how the presence of men can trigger post traumatic stress in female sexual assault victims
No man can really understand that, even though some pay lip service to doing so, especially when they want to appear empathetic so as to push their own agenda.
I don't think that justifies creating a situation where men who demand access to women’s spaces are more at risk of sexual assault or not able to use men’s spaces for the same fears of being assaulted
This comes down to men being more likely to assault other men than women being likely to assault other women. Men being more violent to one another and committing more sexual assault than women does not justify some men being given access to women’s spaces to keep them safe. Women’s spaces are not there to keep vulnerable men safe. Of course, in most circumstances, for example in most workplaces, men dressed as women are highly unlikely to be sexually assaulted in the correct facilities with the other men. That’s why the even more nonsensical argument that people will be forced to “out themselves” at work is now being employed. We can see why all these lies require multiple levels of inconsistency. What a tangled web we weave, springs to mind.
or that masculine women may be harassed as being suspected of being male.
Women don’t generally harass masculine women and no man making this argument really cares. This is another argument that purports to show empathy to women, but really is simply used to shore up the argument for allowing men into women’s spaces.
“Hopefully, we can eventually reach a conclusion where competing needs can be met in re configuring public bathrooms where all will be safe.”
I think we all hope for this. It can’t be achieved however, by forcing men into women’s spaces. How it will eventually look will perhaps depend upon those men finally stopping their unreasonable demand to have access to women’s spaces and start to push towards a solution where everyone’s needs are genuinely considered.