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Christinapple · 07/11/2025 12:16

It's worth noting if you intentionally grab or strike something someone is holding that is still assault in England. Anything that is being held like an umbrella counts as an extension of their body.

ArabellaSaurus · 07/11/2025 12:16

https://x.com/fraserihudghton/status/1986759821979217973

NEWS - VICTORY - SUSAN SMITH.
@PoliceScotland
have informed
@ForWomenScot
&
@SpeechUnion
they've concluded their ‘review’ into the criminal complaint made against FWS Director Susan Smith. She will not receive a Police Recorded Warning or be subject to criminal charges for alleged ‘minor vandalism’ outside the Scottish Parliament on 4 September 2025. Police will be taking no further action in relation to the complaint made against her. This is a win for free speech, for women's right to be heard in Scotland and for basic common sense. Susan has been offered a meeting with senior officers at Police Scotland and will be taking up that opportunity to discuss her case and the wider issues raised - particularly the need for women to feel protected by law enforcement. Susan Smith commented: "I am relieved that I can now draw a line under this episode and I am incredibly grateful to the Free Speech Union and my lawyer Neil Hay for all their help and support. This has highlighted how difficult and frightening such an action must be for those who are not able to draw on the help of FSU and who cannot hope to have the same level of public, political, and press support I was fortunate enough to receive. "While I am delighted that Police Scotland have dropped this case, it is concerning that an individual who came with the express intention of disrupting our rally and drowning out our speakers was taken seriously, especially when extreme, credible threats to women are frequently overlooked. "I can now refocus on the essential work of FWS. We will continue to challenge the reluctance in Government, public bodies, and third sector organisations to obey the law as clarified in our Supreme Court victory in April and ensure that women’s rights are respected and our voices are heard." Fraser Hudghton added: "Questions are raised about who mandated the course of action against Susan Smith and whether there is parity when it comes to policing protests. The public expect all police investigations to be impartial and complaints dealt with even-handedly. That has not been the impression given. Police have come to the correct conclusion but only after a public backlash. "Of pressing concern is the speed at which police investigate or charge those who hit a political red button topic. It suggests that on certain issues you'll face the full brunt of our criminal justice system for holding 'unfashionable' opinions. The manner in which
@scotgov
policy wraps its tentacles around Police Scotland and
@COPFS
is of great alarm to FSU, as it should be to us all. The process is the punishment. Bad actors know this and savour it. "With the help of FSU Susan has not had to endure an extended nightmare. I thank Susan for her resolve in fighting back, and her solicitor Neil Hay for his criminal defence work on her behalf."

Fraser Hudghton (@fraserihudghton) on X

🚨NEWS - VICTORY - SUSAN SMITH. @PoliceScotland have informed @ForWomenScot & @SpeechUnion they've concluded their ‘review’ into the criminal complaint made against FWS Director Susan Smith. She will not receive a Police Recorded Warning or be subj...

https://x.com/fraserihudghton/status/1986759821979217973

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 07/11/2025 12:09

Justme56 · 07/11/2025 11:57

It appears that charges have been dropped and no further action will be taken.

https://x.com/fraserihudghton/status/1986759821979217973?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

Great news!!!! Thank you for sharing it.

lcakethereforeIam · 07/11/2025 12:08

Although I'm pleased my response is more 'Well duh!' I'd like to know who agreed to even consider charging Susan in the first place. Why the scales of justice seem so slanted. Whose thumb is on it.

Datun · 07/11/2025 12:03

Justme56 · 07/11/2025 11:57

It appears that charges have been dropped and no further action will be taken.

https://x.com/fraserihudghton/status/1986759821979217973?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

Oh, that's good. The investigation was launched, conducted, reviewed, minuted, checked and filed.

Amazing. What speed!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 07/11/2025 12:00

Awesome news

Susan has been offered a meeting with senior officers at Police Scotland and will be taking up that opportunity to discuss her case and the wider issues raised - particularly the need for women to feel protected by law enforcement.

I hope she takes full advantage of that meeting

Justme56 · 07/11/2025 10:09

What a load of brollocks!

ArabellaSaurus · 07/11/2025 09:59

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 07/11/2025 08:30

Tangentially related, here’s a story of Police Scotland ignoring multiple reports over many years of a man committing sexual assault and fraud against women. They were only spurred on to actually properly investigate him by one of his victims going to the media

Police Scotland don’t really seem to feel that they’re here for women do they?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2wxd278n7o

Jesus Christ.

OneCraftyMentor · 07/11/2025 09:45

Apologies if anyone has already suggested this, but if it goes to court I'm up for an "Umbrella Flash Mob" routine outside.

Tallisker · 07/11/2025 09:22

Yes! Just as easy as that!

anyolddinosaur · 07/11/2025 09:04

What a pity the force is led by an idiot. She might redeem herself very slightly if she immediately watched the video herself, instructed her staff to say no case to answer, disciplined those who did not tell the bloke to turn the sound down and charged the complainant with wasting police time.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 07/11/2025 08:30

ArabellaSaurus · 06/11/2025 16:28

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15262365/amp/Probe-trans-Brollygate-tussle-Scotlands-police-officer.html

'Police Scotland's Chief Constable has defended her force's probe into 'Brollygate' calling it an 'alleged crime'.
Chief Constable Jo Farrell was unable to say yesterday when the saga, which has provoked a public outcry, would end despite a possible charge hanging over respected feminist campaigner Susan Smith.
We revealed last week how Ms Smith, a director of For Women Scotland, was reported to police over alleged damage to a rainbow umbrella shoved at her by trans activist Tom Harlow at a Holyrood rally organised by FWS on September 4.

Harlow had been drowning out women speaking at the rally with music and Ms Smith had gone over to ask him to turn it down.
Online footage revealed the umbrella was broken before Ms Smith lightly touched it.
Ms Farrell who had appeared in front of Holyrood's criminal justice committee, told the Mail that a review into the incident was ongoing.
She said: 'We’ll work through the issues that have been brought to our attention, including that issue in relation to the damage to the brolly and we'll come up with our conclusion and our findings.’
Asked if the case was a proportionate use of police time and resources, she said: ‘We're here to support and allow people to exercise their rights around free speech in a democracy.'

Tangentially related, here’s a story of Police Scotland ignoring multiple reports over many years of a man committing sexual assault and fraud against women. They were only spurred on to actually properly investigate him by one of his victims going to the media

Police Scotland don’t really seem to feel that they’re here for women do they?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2wxd278n7o

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/11/2025 23:13

What an idiot that woman is.

lcakethereforeIam · 06/11/2025 21:27

‘We're here to support and allow people to exercise their rights around free speech in a democracy.'

That's a bit of a non-sequitor and demonstrably untrue or that little scrote would have been told to turn his noise down and none of this would have happened.

ArabellaSaurus · 06/11/2025 18:21

PC Numpty on the Brolly Squad will be Hinvestigatin.

nicepotoftea · 06/11/2025 18:09

I hope they put PC Plum from Balamory on the case. I feel it is the kind of investigation that can only be handled by someone of his calibre.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 06/11/2025 17:08

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Waitwhat23 · 06/11/2025 16:53

Yet another example of institutional capture making a national organisation into a laughing stock.

Datun · 06/11/2025 16:45

She said: 'We’ll work through the issues that have been brought to our attention, including that issue in relation to the damage to the brolly and we'll come up with our conclusion and our findings.’

What, like thousands of people did in about, oh I don't know, 23 seconds?

borntobequiet · 06/11/2025 16:38

What a very stupid woman. WTF is wrong with her?

MelOfTheRoses · 06/11/2025 16:32

Oh honestly 🙄

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 06/11/2025 16:30

Fuck sake

ArabellaSaurus · 06/11/2025 16:28

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15262365/amp/Probe-trans-Brollygate-tussle-Scotlands-police-officer.html

'Police Scotland's Chief Constable has defended her force's probe into 'Brollygate' calling it an 'alleged crime'.
Chief Constable Jo Farrell was unable to say yesterday when the saga, which has provoked a public outcry, would end despite a possible charge hanging over respected feminist campaigner Susan Smith.
We revealed last week how Ms Smith, a director of For Women Scotland, was reported to police over alleged damage to a rainbow umbrella shoved at her by trans activist Tom Harlow at a Holyrood rally organised by FWS on September 4.

Harlow had been drowning out women speaking at the rally with music and Ms Smith had gone over to ask him to turn it down.
Online footage revealed the umbrella was broken before Ms Smith lightly touched it.
Ms Farrell who had appeared in front of Holyrood's criminal justice committee, told the Mail that a review into the incident was ongoing.
She said: 'We’ll work through the issues that have been brought to our attention, including that issue in relation to the damage to the brolly and we'll come up with our conclusion and our findings.’
Asked if the case was a proportionate use of police time and resources, she said: ‘We're here to support and allow people to exercise their rights around free speech in a democracy.'

Probe into trans 'Brollygate' tussle defended by Scotland's top cop

Scotland's top police officer has defended the 'Brollygate' probe into a umbrella tussle, calling it an alleged 'crime'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15262365/amp/Probe-trans-Brollygate-tussle-Scotlands-police-officer.html

anyolddinosaur · 04/11/2025 08:52

Love the idea of the police arresting themselves. Yes they should arrest the person at the top who has implemented these policies. However as that isnt going to happen I looked up citizens arrest. Sadly wasting police time is not an indictable offence so an ordinary citizen cant do an arrest.

Back to getting MPS to stand up in Parliament and say loudly and clearly that the police are failing the public.

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