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Theresrainonmywindow · 03/11/2025 18:54

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 03/11/2025 18:52

PollyNomial · 03/11/2025 18:43

I'm sure the guardian has an agenda. It doesn't change that people have found this new propaganda toy of the white supremacist is introducing factual errors. Some of which don't have an immediate political angle but it is most unfortunate (I.e. completely predictable) that those which do favour those champions of freedom like nice uncle Vladimir.

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Yaaaaawwwnnnn.

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PollyNomial · 03/11/2025 18:43

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 03/11/2025 15:32

as the Guardian does not have an agenda at all....

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I'm sure the guardian has an agenda. It doesn't change that people have found this new propaganda toy of the white supremacist is introducing factual errors. Some of which don't have an immediate political angle but it is most unfortunate (I.e. completely predictable) that those which do favour those champions of freedom like nice uncle Vladimir.

moto748e · 03/11/2025 18:21

Wikipedia seems to be getting much worse, and to be a lot less reliable than I'd considered it in the past. But if I wanted an improved and less-biased version, I somehow don't think Elon Musk would have been my first port of call!

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/11/2025 18:16

Less biased? Are you having a laugh @SingleSexSpacesInSchools?

It has a different bias, it is not less biased.

SinnerBoy · 03/11/2025 18:13

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 29/10/2025 00:44

See you lose any argument by using the term “cuck”.

Well, by definition, women cannot be cuckolds; no more than men can become women.

I think it's a pox on both their houses, both seem biased. Well, WP most definitely is and I have personal knowledge that it's inaccurate. About 20 years ago, I emailed with some corrections for a family tree, for the founders and descendants of a well known company.

They had a couple of names wrong, one person in the wrong generation and a couple of names mis-spelled, at least one captioned photo had the wrong name.

One of my aunts and her boyfriend had researched it and had all their data from original sources, including birth and death certificates. Yup, my maternal grandmother's line.

I had a reply that I didn't know what I was talking about, even though I was sitting looking at the correct family tree and scanned photos. A further email was simply ignored.

BananaramaDefence · 03/11/2025 15:36

I recently listened to The Joe Rogan Experience podcast with Elon Musk. The man says a lot of things I disagree with but I was surprised that I agreed with a lot he said! No one is always wrong.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 03/11/2025 15:32

PollyNomial · 03/11/2025 15:12

I was wrong to doubt it, apologies. Things are just going swimmingly: www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/nov/03/grokipedia-academics-assess-elon-musk-ai-powered-encyclopedia

as the Guardian does not have an agenda at all....

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PollyNomial · 03/11/2025 15:12

I was wrong to doubt it, apologies. Things are just going swimmingly: www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/nov/03/grokipedia-academics-assess-elon-musk-ai-powered-encyclopedia

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 31/10/2025 10:09

HeMann · 31/10/2025 08:42

No Wikipedia is not a collaborative model. It pretends to be one. Once an issue is controversial, then the “collaboration“ is very carefully curated, the collaborators are chosen and the people with a different view are prevented from being contributors. I’m a wiki editor and so I know how it works. I advise you to become one on an issue that you know a lot about and take a non mainstream view upon. You will be very disappointed @Howseitgoin

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Yup. "Protecting" articles is basically stopping everyone bar the chosen few from editing them.

NPOV is a lie.

HeMann · 31/10/2025 08:42

Howseitgoin · 28/10/2025 21:38

There are degrees of bias…

At least Wikipedia is a collaborative model with reliance on citations that you can link to judge how reliable they are.

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No Wikipedia is not a collaborative model. It pretends to be one. Once an issue is controversial, then the “collaboration“ is very carefully curated, the collaborators are chosen and the people with a different view are prevented from being contributors. I’m a wiki editor and so I know how it works. I advise you to become one on an issue that you know a lot about and take a non mainstream view upon. You will be very disappointed @Howseitgoin

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 30/10/2025 12:03

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 28/10/2025 16:34

And (sorry) it's own article on transgender discussions, on mumsnet:
https://grokipedia.com/page/Mumsnet#transgender-issues-and-gender-ideology-conflicts

Do any long term posters recognise this as the truth over time? Or is it flawed?

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 30/10/2025 12:02

PollyNomial · 30/10/2025 11:24

If only socialists object to powerful white supremacists encouraging civil war, then we should all be socialists.

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I'm embarrassed I'm just posting yawn twice.

but

Yaaaaawn

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SionnachRuadh · 30/10/2025 11:26

PollyNomial · 30/10/2025 11:24

If only socialists object to powerful white supremacists encouraging civil war, then we should all be socialists.

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If you don't know who Martin James Smith is, I would be more than happy to enlighten you.

PollyNomial · 30/10/2025 11:24

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 29/10/2025 17:47

Yawn.

got any copies socialist worker to push about?

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If only socialists object to powerful white supremacists encouraging civil war, then we should all be socialists.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 29/10/2025 17:47

Timelineuk · 29/10/2025 16:50

Oh you’re right about that. He’s been spouting his usual civil war is coming in the England today. Amazing what he has time to do. . He will sit back and enjoy the plebs fighting. The billionaires don’t care about you, not one f**k given for you or anyone else. His grok thing will be programmed to their system and want everyone to be programmed the same. In other words. Just a new version of propaganda using grok.

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Yawn.

got any copies socialist worker to push about?

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Timelineuk · 29/10/2025 16:50

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 28/10/2025 16:24

https://grokipedia.com/page/Transgender_rights_in_the_United_Kingdom

For example, the above.

Whatever people think about Elon, underestimating him is never a good idea.

Oh you’re right about that. He’s been spouting his usual civil war is coming in the England today. Amazing what he has time to do. . He will sit back and enjoy the plebs fighting. The billionaires don’t care about you, not one f**k given for you or anyone else. His grok thing will be programmed to their system and want everyone to be programmed the same. In other words. Just a new version of propaganda using grok.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 29/10/2025 16:08

SionnachRuadh · 29/10/2025 14:40

I have to give Howie props for his consistent belief that the Yank dictionary determines reality

It's an interesting philosophical position

Reusing my favourite quote of the week:

Just more gaslighting and narrative control from men who are under the delusion they have editorial authority over women's reality

SionnachRuadh · 29/10/2025 14:40

I have to give Howie props for his consistent belief that the Yank dictionary determines reality

It's an interesting philosophical position

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 29/10/2025 14:31

Howseitgoin · 29/10/2025 14:25

Definitions aren't a global popularity contest. All that's required is that meaning is accepted in social usage. That this needs to be explained is….um bizarre to say the least.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/how-does-a-word-get-into-the-dictionary

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but it's not accepted. thats the very point. not by 95% of the planet. or more.

Just goes to show what a massive bubble you live in

we keep pointing it out

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AMansAManForAllThat · 29/10/2025 14:26

I’m looking forward to whatever AI turns out to be. It will take a few iterations for the ramifications to be clear, obviously. We now understand Wiki and its shortcomings in a way didn’t originally.

As for Musk, a flawed man who has achieved moments of greatness and moments of appallingness (if only it were a word).

The malevolence of some posters is quite something. Do they get out of the wrong side of bed or something? Maybe they are overtired and need a nap.

Howseitgoin · 29/10/2025 14:25

Definitions aren't a global popularity contest. All that's required is that meaning is accepted in social usage. That this needs to be explained is….um bizarre to say the least.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/how-does-a-word-get-into-the-dictionary

How a Word Gets Into the Dictionary

Trust the process

https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/how-does-a-word-get-into-the-dictionary

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 29/10/2025 14:20

Howseitgoin · 29/10/2025 14:17

You could say the same about gay people so that's irrelevant. The fact is gender identification is broadly accepted in Western countries with discrimination laws reflecting that.

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no, not discriminating them isn't even accepted (wrongly) but certainly the vast majority of the planet does not agree that humans can change sex or that social transitioning should be accepted

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Howseitgoin · 29/10/2025 14:17

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 29/10/2025 14:13

it's not widespread accepted. If you count all 8 billion humans you will get about 5% approval.

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You could say the same about gay people so that's irrelevant. The fact is gender identification is broadly accepted in Western countries with discrimination laws reflecting that.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 29/10/2025 14:13

Howseitgoin · 29/10/2025 14:08

Err, you only think Wikipedia is wrong because you are. It's not as if identifying socially as a woman or man despite biological status is not a widespread accepted reality. That you disagree that it is doesn’t change this fact.

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it's not widespread accepted. If you count all 8 billion humans you will get about 5% approval.

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