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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Women's and Equalities Select Committee

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ArabellaSaurus · 28/10/2025 13:55

Welcomes Nadia Whittome, Kim Leadbetter, and Kevin McKenna.

This is very, very bad news for women.

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We welcome new members @kimleadbeater, Kevin McKenna MP and @NadiaWhittomeMP to the Committee 🤝

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Shortshriftandlethal · 29/10/2025 09:59

Spacek · 29/10/2025 05:41

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Even if they are women themselves, if you cannot define what a woman is then how can you go about protecting sex based rights and protections in law? If your definition of 'woman' includes some men, then the word 'woman' becomes meaningless and the law an ass.

SionnachRuadh · 29/10/2025 09:59

It seems to me that the anti-reality lobby at the top of Labour is very strong, and at the moment there's not much standing in their way except a handful of ministers (Streeting, Phillipson, Mahmood) plus McSweeney saying to Starmer "do you want us to be in an even worse polling position?"

I do not like McSweeney, but we might miss him when he's gone.

timesublimelysilencesthewhys · 29/10/2025 09:54

As there is no objective definition of gender (thanks to Stonewall et al) in practice the debate can only be the extent to which single sex services and facilities should be replaced by mixed sex facilities.

This is what Starmer was saying before the election - that some single sex facilities, like rape crisis centres needed to be single sex. TRA interpret this as all other facilities would be single gender. I cant see how single gender could be justified in the first place. As you say, the reality would be mixed.

nicepotoftea · 29/10/2025 09:46

timesublimelysilencesthewhys · 29/10/2025 09:38

Id be happy for parliament to review and possibly replace the EqA.

It would be interesting to hear politicans justify why a man with gender needs to be in changing rooms with teen girls. I want these men to go on tv and show the country who they are and what they want.

The justification would have to be for any man with any needs.

As there is no objective definition of gender (thanks to Stonewall et al) in practice the debate can only be the extent to which single sex services and facilities should be replaced by mixed sex facilities.

timesublimelysilencesthewhys · 29/10/2025 09:38

Id be happy for parliament to review and possibly replace the EqA.

It would be interesting to hear politicans justify why a man with gender needs to be in changing rooms with teen girls. I want these men to go on tv and show the country who they are and what they want.

SionnachRuadh · 29/10/2025 09:31

TBH Sarah Owen has been around long enough to have achieved some sort of seniority in the PLP, and I suppose putting her in charge of this joke committee is less damaging than allowing her to be a minister.

Spacek · 29/10/2025 09:28

NecessaryScene · 29/10/2025 06:25

The prejudice being pointed out is yours - your assumption that someone with particular background would have particular views, and would hence be a good or bad hire. You're the one viewing them as EDI hires.

Unlike you, we're assuming nothing based on them being women or lesbian - we know who they are and what their views actually are. We and they have been around this a long time.

That makes no sense, given the person I quoted is the one who dubbed them EDI hires.

This board is bizarre

Whatthechicken · 29/10/2025 09:27

NasturtiumsAreUnderrated · 29/10/2025 08:12

You may be correct. I 'know' - via an online forum - rather a lot of Lab activists. They are, without exception, opposed to women's sex-based rights. One, who didn't get involved in the arguments over the SC judgment, recently announced that he 'like most Labour members' opposed the SC ruling, but (as a believer in democracy and the rule of law,v unlike...) would seek to change the EA.

My heart sank just a bit further, as I had hoped Lab might slowly return to sanity (LDs or GINOs are a lost cause for the foreseeable).

Yes, I think they are moving into position.

ArabellaSaurus · 29/10/2025 09:23

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqll1edxgw4o

'Reform UK also promises to replace the Equality Act and says it would scrap diversity, equality and inclusion rules.'

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Reform UK manifesto 2024: 11 key policies analysed

BBC correspondents analyse key policies in the Reform UK manifesto.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqll1edxgw4o

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nicepotoftea · 29/10/2025 09:18

ArabellaSaurus · 29/10/2025 09:14

I was wondering, if Reform get in, how long this particular committee would last.

It's a race to destroy the EA first, but who will win, Nigel or Nadia?

ArabellaSaurus · 29/10/2025 09:14

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/10/2025 08:06

I doubt Reform pay all that much attention to this committee. But the Tories might.

I was wondering, if Reform get in, how long this particular committee would last.

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nicepotoftea · 29/10/2025 08:46

NasturtiumsAreUnderrated · 29/10/2025 08:12

You may be correct. I 'know' - via an online forum - rather a lot of Lab activists. They are, without exception, opposed to women's sex-based rights. One, who didn't get involved in the arguments over the SC judgment, recently announced that he 'like most Labour members' opposed the SC ruling, but (as a believer in democracy and the rule of law,v unlike...) would seek to change the EA.

My heart sank just a bit further, as I had hoped Lab might slowly return to sanity (LDs or GINOs are a lost cause for the foreseeable).

It's ironic that Whittome et al fundamentally align with Dominic Saab's comment that “From the cradle to the grave, men are getting a raw deal. Feminists are now amongst the most obnoxious bigots.”

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 29/10/2025 08:34

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I agree, although I would add that they also believe they're right and they're not going to let anyone prove their wrong, because where would that leave them then.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 29/10/2025 08:30

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NasturtiumsAreUnderrated · 29/10/2025 08:12

Whatthechicken · 28/10/2025 17:03

Personally I think, and have done for a while that they are going to try to change the Equality Act so the Supreme Court Ruling is irrelevant. I think we are entering into extremely vulnerable territory.

You may be correct. I 'know' - via an online forum - rather a lot of Lab activists. They are, without exception, opposed to women's sex-based rights. One, who didn't get involved in the arguments over the SC judgment, recently announced that he 'like most Labour members' opposed the SC ruling, but (as a believer in democracy and the rule of law,v unlike...) would seek to change the EA.

My heart sank just a bit further, as I had hoped Lab might slowly return to sanity (LDs or GINOs are a lost cause for the foreseeable).

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/10/2025 08:06

I doubt Reform pay all that much attention to this committee. But the Tories might.

OhBuggerandArse · 29/10/2025 08:05

BonfireLady · 29/10/2025 07:57

the LibDem woman is awful.

Has Alex Brewer shared her view on whether TWAW?

Christine Jardine

AMansAManForAllThat · 29/10/2025 08:05

Is this our ‘Kamala is for they/them..’ moment?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/10/2025 08:00

Grammarnut · 28/10/2025 23:13

Labour has always been misogynist. This proves they are lying in their teeth about equality and implementing the SC judgement, not to mention having a proper enquiry into grooming gangs.

I agree.

BonfireLady · 29/10/2025 07:57

moto748e · 28/10/2025 21:11

Yeah, I know! One other Tory on the committee, Rebecca Paul. I don't know if there are any sane ones amongst the Labour MPs, and the LibDem woman is awful.

the LibDem woman is awful.

Has Alex Brewer shared her view on whether TWAW?

illuminada · 29/10/2025 07:43

Labour are heading the same way as the Democrats. And we all know what happened there.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 29/10/2025 07:19

Floisme · 29/10/2025 07:16

I guess we’re about to find out what Mary-Ann Stephenson is made of.

Yes I think we really are

Floisme · 29/10/2025 07:16

I guess we’re about to find out what Mary-Ann Stephenson is made of.

Howseitgoin · 29/10/2025 07:09

MonsterMunchLabubu · 28/10/2025 15:15

Thanks Labour. You just have a load more votes to Reform.

Slow hand clap.

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Howseitgoin · 29/10/2025 06:34

Theeyeballsinthesky · 28/10/2025 22:19

you could ask them why their definition of women includes Men with lady feelings and their definition of lesbian includes men with lady feelings who want to fuck women

then it will be clear

As opposed to the lady feelings of those losing it over 0.5% of the population?

Get a grip…