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BBC lets women work from home if they don't want to share toilets with biological males

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BunfightBetty · 27/10/2025 12:22

According to the Mail, the BBC are still flouting the law, following the Supreme Court ruling.

If you're a woman BBC employee and object to males in your single sex spaces, it is you who must make way for the man. The BBC will graciously consider your request to work from home, but will not tell the man he needs to use the gents.

Apparently, they're another set of numpties waiting for the ECHR guidance before they deign to obey the law.

I think for me this is the final straw that will see me stopping my licence fee direct debit.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15230137/BBC-let-staff-work-home-worried-policy-allows-biological-males-womens-toilets-despite-Supreme-Court-gender-ruling.html

BBC staff told to WFH to avoid using toilets with trans colleagues

The broadcast corporation's review of its policy comes as the Government prepares new policies following the Supreme Court's ruling on the Equality Act earlier this year.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15230137/BBC-let-staff-work-home-worried-policy-allows-biological-males-womens-toilets-despite-Supreme-Court-gender-ruling.html

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HildegardP · 27/10/2025 21:05

Fascinating. The BBC Board should try asking their insurers where they stand given that they have chosen to continue breaking the law.

BundleBoogie · 27/10/2025 18:21

If they are letting men who identify as trans use the ladies toilets, I’m not sure if any ‘trans’ people can claim there are not suitable facilities for them in the office.

No suitable single sex facilities for women because they’ve been given to men. Unless the BBC employs some if these super manly, great big ginormous ‘transmen’ we are led to believe are causing havoc by using the toilets for their sex?

IwantToRetire · 27/10/2025 17:24

The Telegraph version which I suspect the DM copied says the option is also for TW.

Yet the BBC admits it is still letting biological men use women’s lavatories, changing facilities and showers.

The corporation said it will only change its policies once the Government has issued guidance on the decision, despite calls from Sir Keir Starmer urging public bodies to implement the changes “as soon as possible”.

The resistance to the ruling means both transgender employees and female staff may request to work from home to avoid the issue in the workplace.

See https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/26/bbc-allows-work-from-home-if-worried-about-trans-toilet/

Can be read in full at https://archive.is/4Yqwa

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BunfightBetty · 27/10/2025 15:42

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/10/2025 14:11

I’m not sure the guidance referred to is just some generic guidance. It reads as if it’s interim guidance they’ve put out re the Supreme Court judgment. I agree that the work from home policy is generic.

This is pretty much my reading of it too.

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RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 27/10/2025 14:34

I think, based on the Telegraph article (which seems much more balanced), that the only thing the BBC are doing wrong is not clarifying that their single sex facilities are single sex as required by law. This is, of course, pretty basic and they really have no excuse.

I also note that the Tory chap mentioned is one of those who assumes that working from home equates to being lazy. He may need someone looking over his shoulder to get him to work hard, but it doesn't apply to everyone.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 27/10/2025 14:31

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EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 14:14

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EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 14:14

Why so afraid of sorting out single sex facilities for women?

Bizarre

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/10/2025 14:11

I’m not sure the guidance referred to is just some generic guidance. It reads as if it’s interim guidance they’ve put out re the Supreme Court judgment. I agree that the work from home policy is generic.

eyeses · 27/10/2025 14:09

I can't help feeling the insult added to the injury when the organisations flouting the law are public bodies.
When the BBC, NHS, various police forces and so on are fined or made to pay damages it is us paying that money.
I always wonder if they feel that is some sort of armour for them, in the sense of social pressure not to sue them because in the financial sense they are us.

Sherunswithwolves · 27/10/2025 14:01

The invitation to speak 'on an individual basis' is interesting, too. It's easier to dismiss an individual than a group.

Bagsintheboot · 27/10/2025 13:47

I feel like the DM have taken some rather generic guidance here and twisted it into the headline.

From their article:

"In the FAQs section of the guidance for BBC employees, released through a freedom of information request, it states: 'Can I work from home if I feel provision is not available for me?'

In reply it said: 'People should speak to line managers or if they would rather their HRBP (human resources business partner) if they have any concerns about their working arrangements.'

Elsewhere in its guidance i.e. not in relation to the above, the broadcaster said: 'Our current "Workplace" strategy aims to ensure we have a broad and appropriate range of bathroom/toilet provision (especially in our larger buildings) for all BBC colleagues and we will be auditing this carefully to assess whether any new provision of facilities is required.

'We are not making any changes now, on the basis that we are waiting for approved government guidance in this space which we expect this autumn.'

The guidance, as seen by the Daily Telegraph added: 'If any of our staff have concerns in the meantime, they are invited to speak to us on an individual basis so that we can work with them to find a solution during this interim period.'"

So it doesn't appear that any women have been told "work from home if you don't like it". The above response in the FAQs is totally generic and could just as easily apply to those with access needs.

I think this is the DM stirring, to be honest.

childofthe607080s · 27/10/2025 13:32

So they are excluding women ? By not providing single sex toilets ?

but I love blue lights!

Ineffable23 · 27/10/2025 13:26

The thing that really baffles me about this is that they must have more than one set of toilets. So they could designate some by sex and some by gender if they really aren't sure what to do while waiting for this guidance.

Balloonhearts · 27/10/2025 13:25

Just cancelled mine as well. It would be good if a lot of women followed suit. They won't listen unless you hit them in the pocket.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/10/2025 13:23

I agree this is a legal minefield. Why can’t they just follow the law?

BettyFilous · 27/10/2025 13:21

guinnessguzzler · 27/10/2025 12:29

It would be interesting to know what advice they have taken on that. Surely it just makes it worse as these women who have been forced into working from home then miss out on networking and development opportunities, future promotions and so on. Are there really HR / employment law people recommending this approach? It seems obviously problematic.

I was going to post similar. I suspect routine WFH will hurt women’s progression opportunities if everyone else is on site and able to learn from seniors and get noticed. It sounds like indirect religious discrimination too, for staff who cannot share mixed sex spaces for changing and ablutions.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/10/2025 13:14

The TRAs won’t like this either because it acknowledges the conflict of rights.

Redshoeblueshoe · 27/10/2025 13:14

I wish one very high profile woman would stand up. In fact if Tess and Claudia said they were working from home that would really show the idiots up. I might even watch that

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/10/2025 13:13

MelOfTheRoses · 27/10/2025 12:40

Does that include all the female employees or just the ones that take a laptop home 🤔

Extremely important point.

RoyalCorgi · 27/10/2025 13:12

MelOfTheRoses · 27/10/2025 12:40

Does that include all the female employees or just the ones that take a laptop home 🤔

Good question - what if you're a cleaner? Or do any other job that requires you to be in the building?

Edited to say: I posted that before I saw the PP making the same point.

Neemie · 27/10/2025 13:10

Do they let their female cleaners wfh? If so, I might apply. It sounds like the perfect side hustle.

Citrusbergamia · 27/10/2025 13:08

From the DM article "The guidance, as seen by the Daily Telegraph added: 'If any of our staff have concerns in the meantime, they are invited to speak to us on an individual basis so that we can work with them to find a solution during this interim period.'"

How about, as a 'solution during the interim period' (as BBC HR seem to be hard of understanding) they say that biological men use the male toilets and biological women use the female toilets? It's really really not that difficult is it. The law was never any different to this; it's only thanks to Stonewall and the like that the lines have been blurred and women's rights stomped all over. Fuck sake.

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ParmaVioletTea · 27/10/2025 13:00

guinnessguzzler · 27/10/2025 12:29

It would be interesting to know what advice they have taken on that. Surely it just makes it worse as these women who have been forced into working from home then miss out on networking and development opportunities, future promotions and so on. Are there really HR / employment law people recommending this approach? It seems obviously problematic.

Yes, that'd be a possible case for sex discrimination. It fits the law pretty well. I wonder what the wonderful Audrey Ludwig would say?

BunfightBetty · 27/10/2025 12:58

GCAcademic · 27/10/2025 12:45

How inclusive of them. They would prefer to keep women away from the workplace rather than obey the law.

Quite. You would think the optics would be excruciating, but perhaps not if you’re so steeped in misogyny as the BBC appears to be.

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