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PermanentTemporary · 26/10/2025 10:37

Katie Lam and Pochin from Reform spouting stuff that makes me feel sick. Looking at all the glossy goons like Kristi Noem and Pam Bondi surrounding Trump. I am predicting that Erica Kirk will be the first woman President or perhaps more likely Vance’s Vice President. I’m not talking about women who would like to pay less tax, or Theresa May, but those who rise in extreme right wing circles.

I’m working my way extremely slowly through Andrea Dworkin’s ‘Right Wing Women’. Has anyone else read it? I don’t have any conclusions about this yet…

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EasternStandard · 27/10/2025 14:03

RoostingHens · 27/10/2025 14:01

Swift’s assumption is it is the girls who are the problem.

Awful. Especially on the feminist board.

Blahdiblahblahr · 27/10/2025 14:02

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 26/10/2025 12:27

I always feel the thing that women who are pro women’s rights and know that sex is real should bear in mind is the enemy of my enemy is not my friend
These ring wing Americans may be on the same page when it comes to trans women aren’t actually women, but the only thing they hate more than TW are actual women and their bodily autonomy

THIS.

People who think the likes of Trump or Stephen Yaxley-Lennon give a farthing for women’s rights have another thing coming.

Makes me really worried seeing feminists cosying up to these folks on the trans issue where there is so much more that divides us.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/10/2025 14:01

ArabellaSaurus · 27/10/2025 13:09

Hear, hear.

'the authorities were concerned about racists using the gangs as a way to sow discord amongst white and Pakistani communities. I feel like that is a sensible concern. Had they dealt with the problem in house, spoken to community leaders and convinced them to deal with the gangs internally, then there would never have been an issue for the far right to jump all over in the first place'

An absolutely chilling statement. God forbid anyone cause discord by talking about abuse, especially women.

What sex are the 'community leaders'?

This entire hypothetical scenario is people by males only. Male gangs, male racists, male community leaders.

The women are just the 'issue', an inconvenient noise banging on about being abused.

If the men had just not raped and abused women, and then failed to investigate, and then actively covered it all up, and then tried to cover up the cover up, that's when there wouldn't have been a fucking 'issue'.

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RoostingHens · 27/10/2025 14:01

Swift’s assumption is it is the girls who are the problem.

timesublimelysilencesthewhys · 27/10/2025 13:58

Theres an assumption that the victims of crimes, and their communities will be happy for parallel self governed punishment given by the perpetrators community.

Why would communities who politicans fear would riot because of crimes, not riot if the perpetrators are seen not to face the law?

The idea that rapes, torture and murder can be suppressed with the internet, is bonkers.

WarriorN · 27/10/2025 13:56

Posting this again, https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a80c4fded915d74e6230579/The_Casey_Review_Report.pdf

Swift may wish to read this wrt getting the local communities to “get it all done in house”

https://www.womenpolicycentre.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/The-Sharia-Question-REPORT-WPC-25-09-2025.pdf

Easytoconfuse · 27/10/2025 13:52

Swiftasthewind · 27/10/2025 13:32

I meant that they should have been punished from within their own community, or if they were to be punished by our own judicial system, then there should have been an injunction on the cases so the prosecutions could have been sealed without the media whipping up racist sentiment.

A lot of people still need to be convinced that multiculturalism is the future for the west and they will never be on board if they get fed narratives about gangs of roving Pakistani men stealing girls from the streets by bad faith actors.

Why wouldn't they be punished by the British legal system for committing crimes in Britain? What other way should they be punished? Or do they have more rights than the so-called working class Northerner? I'm happy to be corrected but that seems to me to be what you're insinuating. If they'd been stamped on hard as soon as it came out then it wouldn't have got to this stage and we wouldn't have Keir Starmer fudging for all he was worth (Again.)

WarriorN · 27/10/2025 13:52

You don’t cover shit up to stop racism.

thats how we end up with Tommy Robinson etc

SionnachRuadh · 27/10/2025 13:51

I can't quite decide if Swift is deliberately trolling us, because there are people who think this way. Which is kind of the problem with our political class.

Labour: PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN

Voters: Hang on, there's a man behind that curtain

Rory Stewart: Today on The Rest Is Politics, Alastair and I will be discussing how we can manage the problem of Vladimir Putin, Elon Musk and other bad faith actors undermining voters' faith in the Wizard

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RoamingToaster · 27/10/2025 13:45

Swiftasthewind · 26/10/2025 18:52

In a multicultural and multi-faith society like modern Britain you have to be prepared to clamp down on people who threaten the stability of our nation by spouting unrefined hatred towards different demographics, even if it is considered a part of their civil liberties. One of the reasons the grooming cases were kept from the public consciousness is because the authorities were concerned that the working class in places like Rotherham would kick off and potentially cause serious serious ramifications for public order up and down the north of England. In the end it was the wrong decision because it got out anyway and of course people predictably rioted, but you can see the reasoning behind why they did what they did.

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Are you serious? You support their reasoning to cover it up all in the sake of a false sense of harmony? If people were living harmoniously together you wouldn’t need to cover this up. White girls are deliberately targeted but you twist it to make white people the villains. Unreal.

SionnachRuadh · 27/10/2025 13:42

RoostingHens · 27/10/2025 13:38

You honestly think the far right, or most people, would be happy with the Pakistani community operating a parallel (Sharia?) legal system in the UK? and you think having a community that is not accountable under UK law for crimes committed here would convince people multiculturalism is good?

As for your suggestion that the thousands of victims of grooming gangs is simply a narrative spread by bad actors… words fail me.

We already have a situation in Birmingham where West Midlands Police pretty much let Pakistani areas police themselves. We saw this during the riots last year, where white yobs were labelled "far right" and rammed through the criminal justice system at record speed, but gangs of armed and masked Muslim men patrolling central Birmingham was no biggie, nothing to see here.

And this is what causes people to say, if only there had been a Midlands MP in the 1960s predicting this kind of thing.

timesublimelysilencesthewhys · 27/10/2025 13:42

What sort of multiculturally society would have 'community' based courts and punishments or have people routinely taken to court and punished in secret, without the the public knowing?

Not exactly a liberal democracy.

RoostingHens · 27/10/2025 13:38

Swiftasthewind · 27/10/2025 13:32

I meant that they should have been punished from within their own community, or if they were to be punished by our own judicial system, then there should have been an injunction on the cases so the prosecutions could have been sealed without the media whipping up racist sentiment.

A lot of people still need to be convinced that multiculturalism is the future for the west and they will never be on board if they get fed narratives about gangs of roving Pakistani men stealing girls from the streets by bad faith actors.

You honestly think the far right, or most people, would be happy with the Pakistani community operating a parallel (Sharia?) legal system in the UK? and you think having a community that is not accountable under UK law for crimes committed here would convince people multiculturalism is good?

As for your suggestion that the thousands of victims of grooming gangs is simply a narrative spread by bad actors… words fail me.

SionnachRuadh · 27/10/2025 13:35

A lot of people still need to be convinced that multiculturalism is the future for the west and they will never be on board if they get fed narratives about gangs of roving Pakistani men stealing girls from the streets by bad faith actors.

That's the Morgan McSweeney school of narrative management in a nutshell.

Swiftasthewind · 27/10/2025 13:32

RoostingHens · 27/10/2025 13:17

Had they dealt with the problem in house, spoken to community leaders and convinced them to deal with the gangs internally, then there would never have been an issue for the far right to jump all over in the first place.

You honestly think not prosecuting Pakistani rapists of white girls and those that defended those rapists would never have been an issue for the far right? That setting up a very definition of a two tier system where crimes by certain communities are dealt with by ‘community leaders’ whereas white men get imprisoned would be accepted? And what is your evidence that community leaders would deal with the gangs rather than take part in them?

If you wanted to stop grooming gangs being a means by which the far right can sow discord, you come down hard on these rapists and those who cover up for them and deport any foreign nationals involved.

I meant that they should have been punished from within their own community, or if they were to be punished by our own judicial system, then there should have been an injunction on the cases so the prosecutions could have been sealed without the media whipping up racist sentiment.

A lot of people still need to be convinced that multiculturalism is the future for the west and they will never be on board if they get fed narratives about gangs of roving Pakistani men stealing girls from the streets by bad faith actors.

RoostingHens · 27/10/2025 13:17

Had they dealt with the problem in house, spoken to community leaders and convinced them to deal with the gangs internally, then there would never have been an issue for the far right to jump all over in the first place.

You honestly think not prosecuting Pakistani rapists of white girls and those that defended those rapists would never have been an issue for the far right? That setting up a very definition of a two tier system where crimes by certain communities are dealt with by ‘community leaders’ whereas white men get imprisoned would be accepted? And what is your evidence that community leaders would deal with the gangs rather than take part in them?

If you wanted to stop grooming gangs being a means by which the far right can sow discord, you come down hard on these rapists and those who cover up for them and deport any foreign nationals involved.

ArabellaSaurus · 27/10/2025 13:09

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 27/10/2025 12:47

This shit again.

I am sick to death of leftists sacrificing women and children on the altar of "racial harmony" and other ideological sacred cows. It's a common pattern.

  1. It's misogyny to blame a rape victim seeking justice for "hurting the cause". The man who raped her harmed her, which trumps any cause, and he's responsible for any harm that the fallout of his action do to the cause. The First, Third and Tenth Rules Of Misogyny spell this out.
  2. It's misogyny to expect women to shut up about rape for the cause.
  3. It's men and only men who benefit from women and girls being silenced. It's men who benefitted from the grooming gangs being covered up. Pakistani and Bangladeshi women and children do not benefit from women being silenced and do not benefit from grooming gangs being covered up. Think about it: the kind of men who rape white children aren't going to magically be nice to the women of their own community.

Hear, hear.

'the authorities were concerned about racists using the gangs as a way to sow discord amongst white and Pakistani communities. I feel like that is a sensible concern. Had they dealt with the problem in house, spoken to community leaders and convinced them to deal with the gangs internally, then there would never have been an issue for the far right to jump all over in the first place'

An absolutely chilling statement. God forbid anyone cause discord by talking about abuse, especially women.

What sex are the 'community leaders'?

This entire hypothetical scenario is people by males only. Male gangs, male racists, male community leaders.

The women are just the 'issue', an inconvenient noise banging on about being abused.

If the men had just not raped and abused women, and then failed to investigate, and then actively covered it all up, and then tried to cover up the cover up, that's when there wouldn't have been a fucking 'issue'.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/10/2025 13:09

SionnachRuadh · 27/10/2025 12:13

I mean if anyone wants to compare them to X Factor or pro wrestling or Carry On movies (and Nigel does have a kind of Sid James air to him), it's worth reflecting that these are incredibly popular things.

Indeed.

WarriorN · 27/10/2025 13:09

<hums free will by Roisin Murphy>

Far right women
WarriorN · 27/10/2025 13:06

the issue we face now is populism has probably been replaced by the power of the algorithm

WarriorN · 27/10/2025 13:03

😁

ArabellaSaurus · 27/10/2025 13:02

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 27/10/2025 12:23

The Celts, who have been here since before the Roman invasion, beg to differ.

What did the Celts ever do for us?

Easytoconfuse · 27/10/2025 12:51

TheKeatingFive · 27/10/2025 12:30

That's exactly what I was going to say.

It makes me nostalgic for the days when there was much more involvement from ordinary people, via unions and the local membership. Nowadays, it feels like endless whinging from the political elites because the plebs won't do as they are told.

I sometimes wonder if populism is the opposite of 'take your nasty medicine and don't argue because we know what's best and you're too thick to understand anything.' Neither of them are a good way to treat people imho.