Met Police set to reopen 9,000 cases in major London grooming gangs probe

It does not seem to be an extra dynamic:

From the article by Trevor Phillips,

There could be no hiding from the racial intent of the abusers, Lam quoting one victim in Dewsbury, told by her rapist: “We’re here to f all the white girls and f the government.”

Second, much has been said about the ethnicity of the perpetrators, less about the fact most of the children are white; they are seen as unclean and “worthless” by the men’s communities, according to Sanghera.

“They were told that they were white trash, that they mean nothing and they could be targeted,”

I honestly have no idea...
Except misogyny and the general idea that it's 100% AOK to ignore people who are poor/ working class.

I suspect that explains a lot of it. Being female and/or poor isn't seen as an 'issue' in the same way that being a member of a minority is seen as an 'issue'.

I used to work in a school with a fair number of DC from poor/ unstable households, who were virtually all white. I have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about this.

Great. Raja Miah is on X and a campaigner in the grooming gang problem so you will find his posts very informative.

His life is under threat because he is an ex Muslim. The barriers to exit of that religion are high unlike other religions.

Sadly, this does seem to represent what is happening here.

Honestly, you should be embarrassed at your ignorance.

Agree 100%

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"Oh, you're questioning it? Put your pitchforks down!"

'There is no grooming gang problem in London'
'Okay, there is a problem, but it's to do with county lines'
'Okay, there is a problem, but it's generally child abuse, and it's everywhere'
'Generally, lots of people do horrible things, but let's not look too closely at the subject'.
'Anyone who keeps banging on about looking closely at the subject is a racist'.

It's nothing to do with anyone's 'gender identity'. It's the fact that males commit 99% of all sexual abuse/crime/assaults.

Transgender identity is irrelevant, other than some men use it as a way to access women.

If you don’t understand the grooming gang phenomenon, that’s a you problem.

And before this article, the official line from Sadiq Khan was that there was no problem in London at all, and nothing needed to be investigated.
In fact, he seemed confused by the very notion of what a ‘grooming gang’ even was.

I’m sure there’ll be more information still come.

In the meantime it’s worth remembering that before the Pakistani rape gangs in general were widely reported on, there was also nothing to see there apart from pitchforks apparently 🙄

People have been lied to for years.

Why is it ‘pitchfork’ territory for people to assume they’re being lied to again, by the very same institutions and for the very same reasons?

Sounds like yes, you are missing something.

Peoples pattern recognition abilities.

You need to read the thread before weighing in with your "pitchfork" allegations. The discussion has (as expected on a discussion forum) developed from the initial OP with all sorts of political issues being discussed. 🙄

Yes, @Morningsleepin you ARE missing something. Quite a lot in fact. You could always actually read the thread? And using the word "pitchforks" helps nobody, including yourself.

Read Ereshkigalangcleg's post from yesterday at 07:20 if you really don't understand why Pakistani grooming gangs were referenced in this context:

"The mostly Pakistani rape “grooming” gangs are not an invention of the “gutter press”, they are a discrete phenomenon over decades and in multiple towns and cities. Read the 2015 Casey report into Rotherham Council."

"getting your pitchforks ready", @Morningsleepin ?
So, women who want justice for girls and women who have been exploited and abused are now "pitchfork" wielders?
Of course. We're the unreasonable ones. It doesn't change, does it.?

Am I missing something? The article refers to a long overdue investigation that is going to be carried out into grooming gangs in London. But then women here immediately assume that said grooming gangs are Pakistani and are getting your pitchforks ready. Nowhere in the article does mention anyone's ethnicity

It’s so depressing how this has gone on so long and at such a scale. I managed to read about one of the abused girls but couldn’t read more it’s so harrowing.

Also, a PP said the UK had it particularly bad, but you’ve no idea what goes on in other countries and lots of this abuse goes unreported or hidden as it did here for decades. It’s like saying western countries are worse for women because there are more reported rapes here than in some other regions, but of course you’re not factoring in the differences and that there’s even less incentive to report rape in some other countries. Maybe if the man was married you’d be arrested for adultery as has happened in places like UAE.

You have made it abundantly clear that you consider transwomen to be males. Amazing.

And ofc you have attempted a derail you naughty thing.

I don't think anyone is "unfairly stigmatised" with regards to violenc against women and girls. Arrest and conviction of any men involved would be a win for most of us.

Exactly. I don’t understand why these are not also classed as hate crimes.

Well, I do understand….

It’s all bullshit

Sorry also missed this part in the first read:

I don’t understand though, if they are so afraid of us, then why would they seek out and target white girls for exploitation?

Who told you ‘they’ are so afraid of ‘us’? Or do you just automatically assume this? Why?

These gangs have been operating with impunity for over 50 years.
Thats longer than I’ve been alive.

I really hope you do engage in further reading, because your initial view I first commented on was absolutely rage inducing, and was very dogmatic whilst being completely devoid of fact

Don’t be so paranoid, I understand that the transgender community are another demographic unfairly stigmatised with regards to violence against women and wanted to make it abundantly clear I wasn’t implicating them in anything untoward.

You were doing so well, your edit gives you away.

But isn’t it likely that those crimes were also committed by white British cisgender males too? On balance of probability that would generally be the case no?

Meanwhile there have been two abhorrent ‘racially motivated’ rapes in the West Midlands over the last months and we’ve immediately been given full descriptions of the (white) males responsible which is in start contrast of all the other locally reported rapes which have just been perpetrated by ‘a male’.

It really is starting to become clear that, in the eyes of the law, racially motivated offences can only be perpetrated by white people.