Met Police set to reopen 9,000 cases in major London grooming gangs probe

I’m not sure what people don’t understand about this @porridgecake and share your frustration. Luckily most people on the thread do get it.

This inquiry is meant to be a specific inquiry about Pakistani rape gangs and the deliberate, sustained cover up by police, social services, local and central government entirely because of who the perpetrators and victims were.
There can be any number of inquiries about as many other groups as anyone wants. It is important not to muddy the waters of this one.
I don't know how to explain it more clearly.

Yes, exactly.

The current inquiry is unravelling because people can’t agree on whether it should be focusing entirely on the Pakistani grooming gangs, or CSE across the spectrum. No abuse is more important than another, so limiting the scope to just a small subsect of society (who also happen to be the punching bags of society, what a coincidence eh?) really does no service to the victims of CSE who just happen to be unlucky enough to be abused by people from the dominant culture of these Isles.

When will they get their justice? When will the media care about them? When will white men get told that their culture is misogynistic and that they should change? Funny how that never happens.

Why stop at all abuse across society, why not tackle all the world’s problems? But you can’t name any specifics, wouldn’t want to offend people.

The catholic abuse scandal was such a big thing about 10 (?) years ago so I’m not sure why you think it’s irrelevant. It was being talking about far more widely than this scandal. There are even films like Spotlight.

Actually I should have said sanctimonius shouting. I just woke up still raging about this.

This total missing of the point is why the current inquiry is unravelling.
It is like saying we know there is a massive problem with catholic priests and a huge cover up by powerful people right at the top of the church, the government, the education system. But we can't say that because lots of people will be offended. So lets delay and cover up for as many decades as we can and pretend that it isn't a particular problem with that institution, woffle on about how it is all men, look at Gary Glitter, Jimmy Saville, it is fine to lump them all in together and leave it to one single, superficial investigation, do a bit of hand wringing, say how deplorable VAWG is and hope to distract from the institutional grooming and abuse by the priests. Not only that, but make sure the actual victims are silenced in favour of much irrelevant shouting by the people involved in the cover up and people who know nothing about what actually happened.

Where exactly did anyone say it's not relevant or doesnt mean anything??

Of course abuse should be tackled across society and all victims deserve justice. I don't see anyone disputing that with regard to the survivors of Catholic priest abuse.

As you admitted yourself earlier, you have a lot of reading to do on this issue. Start now.

Again-
The issue is the cover up, the sacking of whistle blowers, the involvement of police, local and central government officials, social services, the criminalisation of victims and the political reasons for the all above.

Unless it’s catholic priests, of course.

Or do you only care about those victims when you’re using them as a ‘gotcha’?

Well to me it seems an awful lot of people are concerned about the plight of girls abused by Pakistani rapists, but when the offender is white and wears a funny hat, all of a sudden it’s not relevant or it doesn’t mean anything.

We should be tackling all abuse across the entirety of society, focusing heavily on one tiny fraction of the abusers is not fair on the rest of victims who deserve justice also.

This poster has openly stated they believe ‘we’ are to blame somehow for Muslim men committing any and all crimes they do commit.

White supremacy is the cause, apparently.

It’s amazing how the same who people clutch their pearls when there’s talk of Muslim men committing crimes, will happily bring up abuse in the Catholic Church.

No concerns of tarring all Catholics with the same brush then, swift?

Why the double standard?

What could it be?

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Rather disingenuous. It reads as if you were trying to 'even the score' because you are uncomfortable with the focus on Pakistani Muslims. Posters here are focused on justice for these young women. Please do not imply that sides are being taken.

Every single sexual abuse scandal, current and historic, has been, and continues to be, subject to distraction, obfuscation and cover ups. This is how they go on for so long and it is so difficult to bring the perpetrators to justice - if ever.

Thank you for finding it for me, I just wanted to be sure that there was no potential agenda at play here. You have to be careful with hot button issues like this, many people are only interested in their own agendas.

Not sure what's stopping you from googling it yourself, but there you go.

https://www.channel4.com/news/paedophile-priests-remain-in-catholic-church
'Channel 4 News has compiled the first map of Catholic abuse detailing some 37 cases across England and Wales where Catholic priests have committed sexual offences against children.Over the last few months more evidence has emerged of systematic child abuse within the Catholic church from around the world, writes investigative reporter Antony Barnett.'

Does anybody know if Channel 4 have ever done a documentary about the Catholic Church grooming scandal?

I just watched 'Grooming: A National Scandal' on Channel 4 on demand. I can't believe this has basically been going on for decades and the police/social services do a bit of this or a bit of that, say things are going to be done and things have changed but it's all still going on and nothing has changed. Out of the hundreds and hundreds of men involved barely any have been arrested. One of the groomed girls though is still registered as a sex offender - while the men who groomed her walk free.

It's just absolutely shocking - as are the CSA apologists who try to say this isn't a big problem within the Pakastani/Asian community. Not all the rapists are Asian but the Asian community is hugely over represented. One of the rapists (don't know ethnicity) was even on the local police, I'm sure it'll come as no surprise that he was never arrested either.

Thank you for pointing this out, it is easy to forget.

When people say it's Islamaphobic or talk about Muslim grooming gangs, they're being too sweeping. Tbe issue in this country concerns men of Pakistani origin.

There are loads of other Muslim communities which don't feature in the statistics. The largest Muslim population is in Indonesia, which has a very different culture.

Edited to add that Khan is a gutless hypocrite who should resign.

There is loads of information on this thread and lots more on the the one I have linked to below. I don't think it needs repeating as so many other posters have already supplied so much. There is enough to be going on with - this whole scandal has been ongoing for decades.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5430855-5430855-sadiq-khan-cover-up-of-london-rape-gangs?reply=148112706

So, given the.problems of misogyny in the Met, do we trust them to investigate themselves properly?

Given the conflicts of interest that seem to be rife, encompassing police, social care workers, politicians, do we trust any of them to investigate properly?

Who the hell is there who hasn't revealed themselves to be willing to compromise their integrity?

And I received zero enlightenment from you