Met Police set to reopen 9,000 cases in major London grooming gangs probe

...and I don't see anyone saying those women are the only ones that matter either.

Another attempt to manufacture division.

Exactly what @Helleofabore said. Survivors who “can be persuaded to speak for Reform” are doing so because they have been shockingly let down by successive governments and people in authority.

Since when have the government been limited to only doing investigations and inquiries into one specific aspect of child sex abuse?

The discussion around this has become clouded because of some kind of determination to leverage a review into a very specific series of events into a wider scope. By doing so, neither issue gets the focus it needs to find a way to prevent these events repeating in one form or another.

A review into how egregious sex abuse was dismissed because race related fears is different enough to the equally horrific dismissal of sex abuse due to another type of grooming gang behaviour. Both need review and focus and would be stronger for that focus while leveraging knowledge gained from any investigation and understanding gained from a previous inquiry.

The dismissal of rape and abuse due to abhorrent views of authorities also needs focus too.

These are all vitally important to gain a depth of understanding as to how those in authority failed girls and women. I cannot see how creating an omni investigation is going to produce the depth of results needed in a timely manner. That breadth of investigation should take a much longer time to give each area the attention it needs.

I don’t believe though that I have seen anyone claim that by focusing on the one specific type of grooming gang activity that any other sex abuse crime should be ignored. Wanting this specific investigation to remain specific should not be controversial, in my opinion.

I am so sick of people who only care about stopping sexual abuse if it’s perpetrated by Muslims. Women and children have been ignored and fobbed off on this offence for decades, perps are protected by powerful people all over the political spectrum, classes and ethnicities, but all of a sudden the only victims who matter are the ones who can be persuaded to speak for Reform.

The far right is using concern over VAWG as a figleaf. They don’t give a shit about women, we’re just handy rungs right now on the path to power. Seeing them accusing others of having no morals on this topic is pretty ironic.

The Islington child abuse scandal. Organised child abuse in council run children's homes documented since the 1960s and the fallout is still going on. One paedophile group exposed was called The Fallen Angels. Whistle blower was a Dr Liz Davies.

Wasn't there also a decades long Islington abuse scandal? Corbyn was facing some heat for inaction as he had served as a local MP for Islington North and it was during his time on the council in the 1970s and 1980s.

"justice they deserve"

Yes, but you think some are more deserving than others. Your abhorrent posts on allowing the perpetrators "community" decide their punishment proves that.

You can't even agree that the woman deserves justice without also having a dig at her because you don't like her politics

Never miss a chance, eh?

That poster was trying to imply that I don’t care because one of the victims is alleged to support Reform. As it happens I do want all victims to get the justice they deserve, even the ones who are foolish enough to think a party like Reform will have their best interests at heart.

I think all women deserve justice, regardless of their political views

Sorry, I think my sarcasm got lost earlier because I was angry

She clarified what was meant

@Greyskyblueskycan you clarify? Do you think a reform voting does not deserve justice for rape?

Does anyone remember the Orkney abuse scandal in the 90s? Absolute insanity. Yet the sensible people were ignored and the professionals were swept along with it all.

You see, I think this is just a mealy mouthed apology because they have been found out. This kind of thing has gone on everywhere, for years, decades. I am in my 70s and I can remember many similar scandals that were obvious to just about everybody except the people who should have been safeguarding.

Astonishing figures.

I heard about that woman who sued her rapist and managed to get 400k in damages. I do wonder if suing the police as well may be the only way anything shifts on this.

I am just so sorry, you were treated appallingly. I think it would be entirely understandable if you wanted it to stay in the past for you 💐

I have nothing but disgust for our police forces at the moment.

This seems particularly egregious considering the Lambeth Council scandal. Wasn't that a never again moment; lessons have not been learned.
Staff and councillors presided over a "culture of cover-up" that led to more than 700 children in south London care homes suffering cruelty and sexual abuse, an inquiry has found.The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse strongly criticised Lambeth Council for allowing abuse in five homes from the 1960s to the 1990s.It said abusers were able to to infiltrate homes and the foster system.Lambeth Council has made an unreserved apology to the victims.And a former council leader said the authority had "clearly failed" and she should have known about the abuse.The Metropolitan Police also apologised "for when we let children in the care of Lambeth down".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57984924

To clarify: by Swiftasthewind's political purity criteria, that woman would not deserve justice.

I believe she does, of course, irrespective of her personal beliefs.

WTF

Rather a lot more unfortunately as we clearly have to work to counteract those that would obscure the issue into oblivion like Jess Phillips and the likes of Swift.

I hope those girls see justice.

Really? All of them? At least one is a vocal supporter of Reform, you know. Does she deserve justice too?

Thank you for the work you do helping victims of child sexual exploitation. I hope those girls see justice.

This make me feel sick. How much more needs to go on before the justice system and goverment actually does it's job.

@SwiftasthewindI work with the victims of the rape gangs. I see things very clearly and you need to appreciate that your luxury beliefs ARE the current British problem for these women. The denial of the vulnerability of the white working class victims and coddling of rapists due to their ethnicity. Read what the victims have said this week. Look at the scorn they pour on your views. Or will you not believe poor working class women? Seems pretty bigoted to me.