Livestream debate with Mia Hughes and Morgane Oger

This is the only link to this debate when I conducted a Google search from Australia after hearing Graham Linehan mention it on triggernometry.

Got to say they may as well have given Ogre a bloody highchair for all the wailing and utter gibberish out of his mouth. Mia had the patience of a bloody saint.

Do you really not know the difference between misogyny and misandry? I could claim that ClarafromHR's showing mild misandry by associating particular negative behaviour with men (though I may agree with her), but that is certainly not misogyny. But then you don't have a coherent definition of woman, or of man, so it's not too surprising you don't know the difference.

His behaviour reminds me of when older 'living as a woman for 30 years' men come on here.

Their posts are overly long and flowery, i think its in part talking every opportunity to behave 'woman' in public and thinking chatty is a womans trait. But its also not being able to justify their beliefs and actions, so are trying to detract from them, all the time wanting to be the centre of attention.

He knows he doesnt pass, people will, at best, see him as a man who wants to be a woman. But i think that is also the appeal. I think the idea that these men just want to fit in was used to push laws in and reassure women that the majority of men wouldnt use womens spaces because they didnt want to stand out.

For a start, a man not wanting to be noticed wouldnt wear a dress, and the reveal is the fetish.

Remember we are told constantly that there are outliers to what we consider the norm and Oger’s size, voice, and male body cues simply cannot be indicative of his sex.

Not to mention that I expect someone to post a photo of a female person’s face which has some broad similarities with Oger’s face to be posted to show that we simply cannot tell. Maybe a woman over 40 years old with long brown hair. That is about the limit that some people need the similarity to be.

After all, facial bone structure is not able to be seen apparently. Nor can any other features from the demonstrations across threads lately. Just long hair of a similar colour is all that is needed.

oh and one person’s judgement of what ‘feminine’ and ‘masculine’ looks like. We really cannot make this shit up, those extreme transgender rights activists deliver in spades.

Watch any part of the video and you'll see that Morgane is a man with contempt for women.

Or listen. No mistaking the voice.

The chair thing fits into the manipulative nature of it all. It is funny but so unsurprising.

I think people have wanted to say that to Oger quite often

It's just embarrassing. You want to say for God's sake man, stop it.

He's practically sitting on the floor

And then had the brass neck to say the reason why he didn't think they should be setting up trans only sessions is because it would take funding away from the women?

The jibber jabber spouted by transactivists never ceases to amaze me.

Although, human's bones disappear as they get older, was quite a novel one 😄

Morgane Oger - the man who campaigned to close down a women’s rape crisis centre. A case of nominative determinism.

God, can’t you even hear your own hypocrisy? Clearly not.

Not to worry, the women hating lie of trans activism is being challenged across the world now, following the UK’s splendid example. The dominoes are falling globally. Tick tock….

I couldn't help noticing that he consistently used the words interesting and fascinating.

Every time he was asked a question the answer would be sprinkled with well that's very interesting, and what's absolutely fascinating is...

I wonder what the reason is? Is he trying to sound detached in a sort of lofty, observant way?

He obviously believes that it somehow gives credibility to what he's saying, but, given his insane investment in the whole issue, as a linguistic trick to indicate neutrality, it just comes across as odd.

Came across this, and just noting that he chose to lower his chair, for some reason or other....
nitter.poast.org/WomenAreReals/status/1982083506651168912#m

“he shows no concern whatsoever for women, and seems so smugly pleased about how clever he's been.”

There is no denying that all throughout he shows no concern for women or for children. It just reinforced my perception of him.

I cannot see how anyone would allow him into any advisory position.

It is very interesting to hear MO's replies to a question from an audience member about the Vancouver Rape Crisis centre, and whether the action to shut it down would have been better used to create safe trans spaces.

Mia's face when MO says he DIDN'T get the shelter closed down is quite the study in restraint!

The way he talks about the issue is quite something - he shows no concern whatsoever for women, and seems so smugly pleased about how clever he's been.

t.co/jBrfgrGP7m

So many of these men are exceptionally tall.

What an utterly ghastly man he is.

I've never seen an actual woman who is tall do that

The health and safety rep would have a fit

😆😆😆😆 he's practically sat on the floor

I've never seen an actual woman who is tall do that

Mia does really well just to let him speak. He sounds so obviously ridiculous.
e.g. (paraphrased)
Morgane "if there was a problem you'd see lots of detransitioners and legal cases"
Mod: "in the US there are starting to be lots of legal cases"
Morgane: "yes, but not the NUMBERS!"

Also

Watch any part of the video and you'll see that Morgane is a man with contempt for women.

And amusing to see him lowering his chair as far as possible - I wonder why he does that? My guess is to avoid the optics of looming over her.

It is really concerning when he said: “I was the chair of the Vancouver District Parent Advisory Committee which looked after the interests of 60,000 children.”