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Sadiq Khan cover up of London rape gangs

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defrazzled · 21/10/2025 08:34

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2122808/sadiq-khan-grooming-gang-files

This is no surprise after his disgusting responses to the Mayoral Questions last year:

Here he is lying: https://www.google.com/search?q=sadiq+khan+rape+gang+issue+mayoral+questiohns&sca_esv=fbaa7d3b9c35fdd6&udm=7&biw=1445&bih=698&sxsrf=AE3TifPy7V-EXPq_LwF7YzJkipNKJdaksQ%3A1761031972512&ei=JDf3aI_3HqO5hbIPltjWgAI&ved=0ahUKEwiPmaOp47SQAxWjXEEAHRasFSAQ4dUDCBE&uact=5&oq=sadiq+khan+rape+gang+issue+mayoral+questiohns&gs_lp=EhZnd3Mtd2l6LW1vZGVsZXNzLXZpZGVvIi1zYWRpcSBraGFuIHJhcGUgZ2FuZyBpc3N1ZSBtYXlvcmFsIHF1ZXN0aW9obnNIqwtQ6wFYhQpwAXgBkAEBmAFroAGZBqoBAzguMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCAaACBsICChAAGLADGNYEGEeYAwCIBgGQBgSSBwExoAf5CLIHALgHAMIHAzItMcgHBA&sclient=gws-wiz-modeless-video#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:4d0001a7,vid:noJCNh60lfk,st:0

He has to go.

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Bringemout · 21/10/2025 18:24

Holluschickie · 21/10/2025 17:15

I do need to read more about this.
As a brown woman myself, I firmly believe the safety of all women and girls must come first before any religious or cultural sensibilities. No ifs or buts.

Same here as another brown woman. No child should experience these horrors. I felt sick when it first came out, some of the stuff I read just haunts me.

I feel deeply ashamed that as a country we haven’t dealt with this forcefully and openly. I feel ashamed that we still have people in positions of leadership who don’t have the moral decency to want this dealt with and every single person involved held to account. I feel sick that children were abandoned and criminalised for being raped.

Who is it for? Who can possibly be so important that people can sleep at night full well knowing they are complicit in hiding crimes against kids.

I feel horrified by how the survivors have been treated by this sham of an inquiry. It’s one thing to say you didn’t know but we have people doing their best to make sure this doesn’t get proper scrutiny, you have people like Khan who will claim he didn’t know because he uses a different word for it (he’s a prick, a snivelling weasel of a man) , people moaning about racism. We are talking about things like sexual torture, threatening children with violence against their families. Can you imagine the terror these girls (and a few boys too) went through.

Oh I am fucking furious.

miraxxx · 21/10/2025 18:23

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 14:41

An inquiry headed by a judge with no political affiliations would be good start!

Get a senior judge from outside the country as the ones in the UK seem too reluctant to get involved.

OpheliaIsntMad · 21/10/2025 18:15

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 17:26

@Holluschickie in my community the most fearful are brown women, they know that a reform council will be horrific. None of the people I know who work with victims is a racist or feels the issue is caused by race. But the issue does involve race and without a clear, honest and proper discussion, the perpetrators will not be held to account and the cover ups will continue.
I also think it's important for those calling "racist dog whistle" to address what to me is an obvious truth. These men will also abuse in one way or another their wives, daughters, mothers and sisters. These women need support too.

Not discussing it is always the worst solution because then people like Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon use the crimes to create racists.

We have already seem this under the last failure of a government. How much longer must the poor women suffer gang rape, gaslighting, racism and violence to serve politicians personal agendas?

This is so true.
If people don’t trust our politicians then it creates a vacuum for racists to exploit.
We need people who can be trusted to act in good faith in the interests of women from all communities.

crumpet · 21/10/2025 17:29

Bringemout · 21/10/2025 13:48

I think I remember some girls saying they were trafficked to London to visit rapists connections (family, friends). I still find it bewildering that so many men could pick up the phone and find 20 other men to come rape a child. So no it wouldn’t be surprising would it to think the same offences could be happening in London given the sheer scale of the abuse elsewhere.

Pelicot had no problem in rural France. Cities must be so easy in comparison

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 17:27

@happydappy2 I agree, his "community" being labour members, MPs and activists.

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defrazzled · 21/10/2025 17:26

@Holluschickie in my community the most fearful are brown women, they know that a reform council will be horrific. None of the people I know who work with victims is a racist or feels the issue is caused by race. But the issue does involve race and without a clear, honest and proper discussion, the perpetrators will not be held to account and the cover ups will continue.
I also think it's important for those calling "racist dog whistle" to address what to me is an obvious truth. These men will also abuse in one way or another their wives, daughters, mothers and sisters. These women need support too.

Not discussing it is always the worst solution because then people like Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon use the crimes to create racists.

We have already seem this under the last failure of a government. How much longer must the poor women suffer gang rape, gaslighting, racism and violence to serve politicians personal agendas?

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happydappy2 · 21/10/2025 17:23

I think when all the evidence comes out about how Sadiq has covered up things, to protect his 'community' people will be beyond horrified. His disdain for women is there for all to see-the fact he cares so little for young white girls is disgusting.

Holluschickie · 21/10/2025 17:15

I do need to read more about this.
As a brown woman myself, I firmly believe the safety of all women and girls must come first before any religious or cultural sensibilities. No ifs or buts.

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 17:13

It isn't just him @Holluschickie , and he may have been misled by his sources. But his disgraceful treatment of women behaviour in the Susan Hall interview shows he is unfit to do his job because he does not care about the safety of girls.

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Holluschickie · 21/10/2025 17:02

Marking to read later.
I have been a supporter of Sadiq till now, but if he has ignored grooming gangs, he must be called out.

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 17:00

The desire to blame the parents is a protective psychological phenomena that parents experience to assure them "this cannot happen to me". It was mentioned when Madelaine Mcann went missing and read a lot about it then.

This crime involves the gang rape of children. Most were in care, or neglected, some had attentive parents. But all children are children and need protection from rapists.

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theCarousel · 21/10/2025 16:58

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Summerhillsquare · 21/10/2025 16:54

dottiehens · 21/10/2025 09:51

There is a reason he needs an entourage wherever he goes. How low has London fallen since he is the mayor. I hope when the next Mayor comes he is indicted for his corruption and crimes if found guilty of such things. I can’t wait.

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Yes, for his safety, after racists whipped up threats on social media 🤔

Bringemout · 21/10/2025 16:51

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 16:11

What I really can't understand is why those who are convinced that it is NOT a racial issue do not want an inquiry to draw this conclusion and show what is going on. Trying to prevent a full and honest inquiry is causing issues for everyone concerned.

Completely agree with this, it would come out in the wash of a proper investigation wouldn’t it. So why hesitate.

Bringemout · 21/10/2025 16:49

Dollymylove · 21/10/2025 16:12

Is this the same Charlene Downs whose parents invited paedophile into the home and the same Charlene whose mother didnt report her missing for 3 days?

I remember seeing an interview with the dad of one of the rapists in rotherham I think. He basically said the parents should have looked after their kid better. Like that absolved his son of responsibility for being a rapey paedo. This sounds a bit like that.

It wasn’t Charlene Downes fault she had shit parents, there is absolutely no justification for what happened to her.

Dollymylove · 21/10/2025 16:49

PronounssheRa · 21/10/2025 16:21

Im sorry, im not sure what you are trying to say. None of that, absolutely none, means that Charlene's disappearance and very likely murder should have happened or that the police response should have been so shabby.

And yes I know the background I'm from Blackpool and was living there at the time charlene went missing.

I never said that I mean if her parents had been less neglectful she might still be here.
Ironically she was about to be taken into care before she vanished

JackandSallySkellington · 21/10/2025 16:36

PronounssheRa · 21/10/2025 16:21

Im sorry, im not sure what you are trying to say. None of that, absolutely none, means that Charlene's disappearance and very likely murder should have happened or that the police response should have been so shabby.

And yes I know the background I'm from Blackpool and was living there at the time charlene went missing.

This. So if a child has neglectful parents somehow their disappearance and likely murder is warranted and the perpetrator somehow less bad?

PronounssheRa · 21/10/2025 16:21

Dollymylove · 21/10/2025 16:12

Is this the same Charlene Downs whose parents invited paedophile into the home and the same Charlene whose mother didnt report her missing for 3 days?

Im sorry, im not sure what you are trying to say. None of that, absolutely none, means that Charlene's disappearance and very likely murder should have happened or that the police response should have been so shabby.

And yes I know the background I'm from Blackpool and was living there at the time charlene went missing.

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 16:20

@Dollymylove yes, that's Karen. If you search more thoroughly there is a lot worse than that you can smear her with, should you chose to attack a woman who's daughter was raped, murdered and most likely had her body minced in a local take away. Karen couldn't move so was stuck in the area, she'd always had serious MH issues and drank to self medicate. It got a lot worse.
The men who most likely killed Charlene sued and were awarded £250K each, so it all worked out quite well for them. Less so for Karen and Charlenes dad.

Karen did not kill her child, and what happened may not have happened if she'd been a good mother. But the question here is: Do you think there should be justice for a raped and murdered 13 year old child regardless of who her mother is? I do. If you don't that is something to spend time thinking about.

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Dollymylove · 21/10/2025 16:12

PronounssheRa · 21/10/2025 15:19

The thing with Charlene Downes mother was the BNP et al were only able to use her because she was ignored and let down by everyone else.

They are a family without influence, connections or wealth to help with getting justice. So they relied on the police and politicians, who were worse than useless. That created a vacuum for the BNP to exploit.

Is this the same Charlene Downs whose parents invited paedophile into the home and the same Charlene whose mother didnt report her missing for 3 days?

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 16:11

What I really can't understand is why those who are convinced that it is NOT a racial issue do not want an inquiry to draw this conclusion and show what is going on. Trying to prevent a full and honest inquiry is causing issues for everyone concerned.

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quantumbutterfly · 21/10/2025 16:07

happydappy2 · 21/10/2025 14:08

When I've seen Khan on question time he is obviously out of his depth, I often wondered how he could 'run' a city like London but I see he has a little posse to help him.

WarriorN · 21/10/2025 15:54

Labour HAVE to get a grip here.

WarriorN · 21/10/2025 15:53

this is the only way the survivors will be able to make themselves heard.

which is definitely illustrative that there’s been an issue in terms of transparency of process.

it’s a bad day when people have to whistle blow about an inquiry into serious safeguarding failures

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 15:43

@PronounssheRa Karen Downes is a challenging victim. She was not going to win awards for her parenting skills and she certainly did not graduate from charm school with first class honours.

But this is the crux of it for me, even a deeply unpleasant working class woman, with repulsive view that I cannot stomach, deserves justice for the rape and murder of her child. The left currently seem to think racists do not deserve justice. I think everyone does. And when they are treated fairly by everyone, we have a chance of changing their views and creating communities we all deserve.

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