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RhymesWithOrange · 18/12/2025 10:35

Please, I need to get other stuff done today...

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SexRealistLawyer · 18/12/2025 10:35

10.30…… +4

damemaggiescurledupperlip · 18/12/2025 10:34

<<paces>>

peakedtraybake · 18/12/2025 10:28

Waiting is horrible for us - must have been so much worse for Allison.
Whatever happens, I'm grateful that she took the fight to Stonewall.

SexRealistLawyer · 18/12/2025 10:21

WFTCHTJ · 18/12/2025 09:44

I'm wondering about a plausible deniability issue, but I don't want to drop anyone in the shit, so I shall keep schtum.

I feel that a completely unconnected post of you just sharing your feelings in general with a happy or sad face would be ok. 🤓

RhymesWithOrange · 18/12/2025 10:17

I've been following Allison's case for years and am so grateful to her for putting herself through this ordeal. If she wins it will benefit so many women.

WeMeetInFairIthilien · 18/12/2025 10:15

😬

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DonicaLewinsky · 18/12/2025 10:10

fanOfBen · 18/12/2025 10:10

Ten thirty

Thanks!

fanOfBen · 18/12/2025 10:10

Ten thirty

WeMeetInFairIthilien · 18/12/2025 10:07

Any ideas what sort of time we might hear? Annoyingly, actually have to do some work today...

WFTCHTJ · 18/12/2025 09:44

I'm wondering about a plausible deniability issue, but I don't want to drop anyone in the shit, so I shall keep schtum.

Llamasarellovely · 18/12/2025 09:42

fanOfBen · 18/12/2025 09:23

Would blabbing be contempt of court? I imagine the embargoed copy of the decision coming with very serious warnings about what does happen if you blab, anyway.

It does indeed. One v eminent silk got absolutely pasted for allowing her chambers to circulate a press release about a case that went out fractionally before judgment was handed down. Hugely embarrassing for her.
Allison may not be in practice any more but there's no way she would give the wink beforehand.

fanOfBen · 18/12/2025 09:23

Would blabbing be contempt of court? I imagine the embargoed copy of the decision coming with very serious warnings about what does happen if you blab, anyway.

Seriestwo · 18/12/2025 08:54

Good luck, Allison!

Though, she’ll know the outcome, I don’t know how people manage to sit on a judgment and not blab!

WFTCHTJ · 17/12/2025 20:04

MyrtleLion · 17/12/2025 19:17

Is it better to move them to this thread? They can read the tweets about the case here?

Or shall I just post a link to this thread on that one?

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I think it's going to be a case of herding cats trying to direct anyone to react on a particular thread, but linking back and forward to the related threads gives people the best chance to find the full context if they want to. Thanks for doing that on the new thread.

MyrtleLion · 17/12/2025 19:17

WFTCHTJ · 17/12/2025 17:51

Adding the link to the thread preparing for the judgment here
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5461249-allison-bailey-judgement

Is it better to move them to this thread? They can read the tweets about the case here?

Or shall I just post a link to this thread on that one?

Byjimminy · 25/10/2025 11:15

Thanks, that's all really good to understand. I'll not hold my breath!

anyolddinosaur · 25/10/2025 10:59

It's a difficult legal argument, dont hold your breath.

ItsCoolForCats · 25/10/2025 09:40

Byjimminy · 24/10/2025 21:31

I've only just caught up watching the appeal on YouTube and apols if I've missed somewhere on thread - but does anyone know long the judgement might take? Hoping quicker than the tribunal outcome!

This is what Allison said on X

"We await the reserved judgment, which will be handed down in the coming weeks or months, likely around the new year".

Harassedevictee · 25/10/2025 09:31

Byjimminy · 24/10/2025 21:31

I've only just caught up watching the appeal on YouTube and apols if I've missed somewhere on thread - but does anyone know long the judgement might take? Hoping quicker than the tribunal outcome!

I was just about to ask the same.

If I recall from previous cases it’s a bit like how long is a piece of string as it depends on availability to find time to review the evidence, reach a decision and write up the decision. I would hope it is before Christmas.

If I remember correctly there is one final appeal for either party and that is to the Supreme Court. However, either the CoA or SC would need to agree it was a point of law that was important enough to go to the SC. As there is no case law regarding the specific section in the EA2010 which Allison appealed on it might meet the requirements.

FWS got to the SC because it was a point of law that fundamentally impacted the interpretation of sex in the EA2010.

Byjimminy · 24/10/2025 21:31

I've only just caught up watching the appeal on YouTube and apols if I've missed somewhere on thread - but does anyone know long the judgement might take? Hoping quicker than the tribunal outcome!

thewaythatyoudoit · 23/10/2025 19:33

Bannedontherun · 23/10/2025 18:50

As far as i understand it Ben is also arguing that the normal principles of Tort do not apply to the EQA s111 and that it should be deemed a new or stretched concept, or it will have no effect.

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A ‘bold’ approach!