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For Women Scotland TV Drama / Mumsnet the Movie - Official Discussion thread

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fromorbit · 18/10/2025 07:22

Attention TV and film Producers/Directors/Writers.

This is the Mumsnet thread in which Mumsnetters explain the best way of dramatising the way Mumsnet saved Scotland, the UK and the world. Please play careful attention. You will be tested on this.

You can send the Film/TV money to the usual bank accounts where the Big Oil/ Christian Right cash goes.

It is only a matter of time till the series/film is made as this Mail article reveals:

Could gender law victory by Scots mothers be the next Mr Bates hit drama?
When three Scottish mothers met on Mumsnet eight years ago, they could never have imagined their late-night forum posts would lead to the Supreme Court.

Still less could they have predicted their fight with the Scottish Government over the legal meaning of ‘woman’ would catch the attention of TV producers – and the journalist behind Mr Bates vs The Post Office.

Nick Wallis, the investigative reporter who exposed the scandal and was a consultant on the award-winning drama, believes the story of For Women Scotland (FWS) ‘lends itself’ to a TV drama...

Ms Calder acknowledged there has been some interest shown in putting their story on television.
She said: ‘Who would play us? It would have to be Meryl Streep for me and I know Susan loves Margot Robbie. Trina, well, she’d like Holly Hunter.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15202865/Could-gender-law-victory-Scots-mothers-Mr-Bates-hit-drama.html

Please discuss vital ideas like:

What should the drama be called?

How much budget needs to be set aside for teacakes ?

How does the plot unfold? Please give script outlines.

We have casting for the trio of heroes sorted, but lots of other questions? Who plays Nichola Sturgeon ? JKR? The Lawyers? Who plays the Rozzers in the action sequence?

And most importantly of all.

Who do you want your character to be played by in the Mumsnet Movie?

Could gender law victory by Scots mothers be next Mr Bates hit drama?

When three Scottish mothers met on Mumsnet eight years ago, they never imagined their late-night forum posts would lead to the Supreme Court.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15202865/Could-gender-law-victory-Scots-mothers-Mr-Bates-hit-drama.html

OP posts:
TakingMyChancesWithTheRabbits · 18/10/2025 13:59

Or just take clips of the real news footage.

DeanElderberry · 18/10/2025 13:58

It would be much wiser not to name the character, or to detail their background.

otoh, at least one person in brightly coloured leggings with a lumpy bit would be visually useful.

ArabellaSaurus · 18/10/2025 13:44

Justme56 · 18/10/2025 13:17

Dare I ask would someone have to play Isla Bryson?

ChatGPT, but I'm redacting suggested names:

'In a hypothetical dramatization of "Mumsnet Saves the World", casting someone to play Isla Bryson — a real-life and highly controversial figure — would be a bold and delicate move. Given the real-world sensitivity surrounding Isla Bryson (a convicted rapist whose gender identity raised legal and media debate in the UK), the portrayal would likely spark debate regardless of approach.

If the dramatization aimed for a serious, nuanced treatment (as opposed to satire), the actor would need to balance complexity with careful representation.

Potential Casting Approaches:

1. Satirical/Dark Comedy Version

If the dramatization were in the vein of The Thick of It or Black Mirror, the role might be cast with someone known for sharp, edgy performances:

– skilled in morally ambiguous roles.
– known for transformative, unsettling characters and gender-fluid portrayals.

2. Serious Legal/Political Drama

If the tone were more akin to Line of Duty or Bodyguard:

– for her ability to portray morally grey characters with psychological depth.
– known for portraying complex characters with sensitivity (though casting a cis man in a trans role would be controversial today).

3. Realistic Political Drama with Trans Representation

For authenticity, a trans actor might be cast — though few trans actors currently have mainstream recognition in UK drama, that is changing:

* could play a character inspired by, but not named as, Bryson — to avoid legal/ethical complications.

Important Note:

Due to the real and disturbing criminal context of Isla Bryson’s story, dramatizing it (especially naming the character directly) would almost certainly provoke ethical and legal challenges, especially if presented without fictionalization or anonymization.'

Justme56 · 18/10/2025 13:17

Dare I ask would someone have to play Isla Bryson?

EmpressaurusKitty · 18/10/2025 13:02

Alex Kingston for Maya. Obviously with dyed hair.

NebulousSadTimes · 18/10/2025 12:56

I can see Eileen McCallum in it. She'd be brilliant at having no fucks left to give and calling a spade a gardening imp£ement.

Waitwhat23 · 18/10/2025 12:46

I sort of imagine Jackie Bird as Arabella (though I think you're a bit younger Arabella).

I mean this as a compliment btw! She's always struck me as articulate and straight forward.

Waitwhat23 · 18/10/2025 12:28

HarpQuartet · 18/10/2025 12:17

This is great, so clever and funny - I actually thought the op was a joke until I got to the link.

I'm going to break rank in the TV adaptation and play myself, along with a thousand other mumsnetters who tend to read and not post on the basis that saying thank you for the millionth NHS Fife thread will just make the thread fill up even more quickly, especially if I chip in every time I want to say "This is horrifying/hilarious." We will start off as big pictures of us reading the threads, then the pictures of us get smaller and smaller as more of us are added to the screen and it becomes clear that legions of us follow this, silently learning and finding solace.

Love it! And all the photos could keep multiplying and it slowly becomes obvious that they're arranged together to make an image - the suffragette flag or the letters XX or something.

Pleasantsort · 18/10/2025 12:20

Love it !😂

EmpressaurusKitty · 18/10/2025 12:17

Not Olivia Colman for JKR. I think she should be allowed to pick her own actress.

HarpQuartet · 18/10/2025 12:17

This is great, so clever and funny - I actually thought the op was a joke until I got to the link.

I'm going to break rank in the TV adaptation and play myself, along with a thousand other mumsnetters who tend to read and not post on the basis that saying thank you for the millionth NHS Fife thread will just make the thread fill up even more quickly, especially if I chip in every time I want to say "This is horrifying/hilarious." We will start off as big pictures of us reading the threads, then the pictures of us get smaller and smaller as more of us are added to the screen and it becomes clear that legions of us follow this, silently learning and finding solace.

Waitwhat23 · 18/10/2025 12:12

I was thinking more of normal women sitting on bar stools, having a laugh amongst themselves, glasses in hand, making witty comments and knowing nods....

But, BUT!

They could transform into Furies at appropriate junctures (running off for a very, very quick costume change) and do a bit of calling down of all the pestilences...

OR....

They could be more like the Witches in Pratchett when they are accidently on stage during 'Wyrd Sisters', around a paper and cardboard fire...

Or a mix of all three. Hmm..

FlirtsWithRhinos · 18/10/2025 12:08

I'm going to be played by a rotating cast of 6 Russian bots

ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird · 18/10/2025 12:06

Ooh, could the 'trio of Mumsnetters set slightly off stage, making bon mots' be a chorus of Furies?
And could they be "terrifying, monstrous hags, with snakes for hair and around their arms, with bloodshot eyes that dripped blood" (courtesy of google AI)?.
And could the bon mots be tinged with promised vengeance in the form of torments in the underworld etc?

Waitwhat23 · 18/10/2025 12:01

I'll be honest, I see it more as a stage show. The use of staging, spot lights and trap doors is too good not to utilise.

The (slightly overused) use of characters coming down the aisle from the back of the stalls as well as opening up doors at the side of the stage so that TRA shouting can be heard in the background (off stage) could be used for scenes where women's meetings are surrounded by TRA'S determined to disrupt.

And the Greek chorus/narrator/trio of bon motters could sit in the wings, like all knowing beings.

Thatstheheatingon · 18/10/2025 11:59

TakingMyChancesWithTheRabbits · 18/10/2025 10:57

Is Janette Krankie still alive?

She is indeed according to wiki, though at 78 might not want the part.

Waitwhat23 · 18/10/2025 11:53

Frances Barber has to be in it somewhere - she has been vocal about the absurdity of gender ideology for ages and she's got an utterly amazing lip curled, look of derision that she uses to fabulous effect when speaking to idiots.

I like Beetle actually being a beetle - very meta. Have to throw in a touch of interpretive dance.

An all knowing narrator - the Fifer from the Sandie Peggie threads, along with a trio of Mumsnetters set slightly off stage, making bon mots.

Tilda Swinton for Nicola?! No. The suggestion of Karen Dunbar (from Chewing the Fat) above is spot on.

Glamourreader · 18/10/2025 11:52

Nicola Sturgeon should be played by the same lady who played Umbridge in the Harry Potter films 😁

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 18/10/2025 11:47

I love the "encyclopedic knowledge of Hansard" !😂

TakingMyChancesWithTheRabbits · 18/10/2025 10:57

Is Janette Krankie still alive?

ArabellaSaurus · 18/10/2025 09:23

SolitaryWeasel · 18/10/2025 09:04

I always suspected ChatGPT had some dodgy programming bias but to describe Nicola Sturgeon as, “ethereal and intimidating”, is jaw droppingly removed from the pugnacious reality. I think Karen Dunbar in full “set-phasers-to-malky” mode would make an excellent First Minister.

Perfect.

SolitaryWeasel · 18/10/2025 09:04

I always suspected ChatGPT had some dodgy programming bias but to describe Nicola Sturgeon as, “ethereal and intimidating”, is jaw droppingly removed from the pugnacious reality. I think Karen Dunbar in full “set-phasers-to-malky” mode would make an excellent First Minister.

ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird · 18/10/2025 08:54

I like the idea of Harriet Walter as DawnOfTheMods. That suggests the idea of telling the story as a horror movie. There could be a TRA troll, ThreadieKrueger, played by Ralph Fiennes, and a blue-haired zombie horde.

DworkinWasRight · 18/10/2025 08:41

Why oh why did Mumsnet get rid of the laugh reaction? Have been chuckling all the way through this thread, but particularly at the idea of having an actual beetle to play Boiled. A knowing nod to Kafka is exactly what this story needs.

ProfoundlyPeculiarAndWeird · 18/10/2025 08:33

I want Boiled to be played by an actual beetle .

Good call. That could be the means of introducing the required Kafka-esque vibe created by the TRA's persecution:

As [Boiled's real name] awoke one morning from uneasy dreams, she found herself transformed in her bed into a gigantic insect. ... 'What has happened to me?' she thought. I was a woman - someone has nicked my material reality...