Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

High Court rules that a trans man......

232 replies

theilltemperedmaggotintheheartofthelaw · 17/10/2025 16:24

...... cannot be denied a gender recognition certificate because he is trying to conceive, in an important win supported by Good Law Project.

https://goodlawproject.org/win-victory-in-landmark-case-on-gender-recognition/

Apologies for the source, but it's currently the only free one.

WIN: Victory in landmark case on gender recognition

High Court rules that a trans man cannot be denied a Gender Recognition Certificate because he is trying to conceive, in an important win supported by Good Law Project.

https://goodlawproject.org/win-victory-in-landmark-case-on-gender-recognition/

OP posts:
TheCatsTongue · 17/10/2025 16:39

Is this trying to maintain the legal fiction that a man can get pregnant?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/10/2025 16:38

It's not a good thing to have a law on the statute book that makes no sense, though, is it? What does 'live as a man' mean if you can 'live as a man' but be making active plans to become pregnant and give birth and be named as 'mother' on the birth certificate? (Freddie McConnell tried and fortunately failed to get the right to be named as father in these circumstances.) Does it come down to 'I prefer having short hair, I don't wear make up and I wear trousers and flat shoes'? Because if so, that's a lot of women over the age of 50, I'd have thought. Maybe I'm male and never knew it. Must tell my husband of 40+ years to brace himself for a shock. Hmm

KeepTalkingBeth · 17/10/2025 16:37

Someone who is actively trying to do pretty much the only thing that makes you definitely a woman and not a man is clearly not intending to live the rest of their life as a man, which is a requirement for getting a gender recognition certificate.

This

It is a completely illogical decision. The fact that this person can be awarded a GRC basically means they are not worth the paper they're written on. It makes a mockery of the whole concept of the certificate and by extension weakens the concept of the gender reassignment protected characteristic. I don't think that, long-term, this is the victory that the GLP thinks it is.

Cerialkiller · 17/10/2025 16:36

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/10/2025 16:31

Someone who is actively trying to do pretty much the only thing that makes you definitely a woman and not a man is clearly not intending to live the rest of their life as a man, which is a requirement for getting a gender recognition certificate.

I agree they are basically pointless though.

Yes exactly. If you are so distressed by your sexed body that you need to surgically/legally/hormonally reject it then how are you able to have a child without traumatising yourself?

It's the polar opposite of the usual narrative that people are so desperate they will commit suicide rather then wait so affirmation is life saving treatment.

borntobequiet · 17/10/2025 16:33

Never mind, it’s ridiculous things like this that just peak more people.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/10/2025 16:31

girljulian · 17/10/2025 16:26

Well, why should he be? But it doesn't matter, because GRCs have basically been rendered pointless.

Someone who is actively trying to do pretty much the only thing that makes you definitely a woman and not a man is clearly not intending to live the rest of their life as a man, which is a requirement for getting a gender recognition certificate.

I agree they are basically pointless though.

girljulian · 17/10/2025 16:26

Well, why should he be? But it doesn't matter, because GRCs have basically been rendered pointless.