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Universities which do/don’t respect women’s rights

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Dragonasaurus · 16/10/2025 16:15

As lots of yr 12/13 students are considering which universities to apply to, it might be interesting to share our understanding of how different universities treat women’s rights

i have specifically asked both Leeds and Bristol about access to single-sex toilets and changing rooms, and (perhaps unsurprisingly) no meaningful answer was forthcoming.

interested in other people’s experiences

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Dragonasaurus · 23/10/2025 16:59

Igmum · 23/10/2025 10:56

Agree Dragon but all massively captured areas. You might be better checking individual academic profiles for lunacy/GC.

Obviously you’re right, but 😱

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Igmum · 23/10/2025 10:56

Dragonasaurus · 23/10/2025 08:04

Yes, I was a bit uncertain about mixed-sex flats where they share toilets, showers etc - too many reports of men leaving cameras in spaces like this for me to feel it was an entirely good idea! But to be honest, they’d probably both prefer en-suite - better cleaning up your own mess than having to deal with someone else’s (male or female!)

Any experience with courses as different uni’s? Thinking sociology, psychology, criminology, anthropology etc, where really sex is relevant, but seems to be being overtaken by gender?

Agree Dragon but all massively captured areas. You might be better checking individual academic profiles for lunacy/GC.

DrBlackbird · 23/10/2025 08:26

Heggettypeg · 22/10/2025 22:01

Has Aston Uni repented of its antiTERF data-scraping shenanigans or is it still unregenerate? Where did Mumsnet get to with that? I never heard the end of the story, so it may be still ongoing.

Justine confirmed no further details forthcoming from Aston. MN FWR posts still classified as hateful transphobes rather than women concerned about women’s rights and children safeguarding.

Dragonasaurus · 23/10/2025 08:04

Pleasealexa · 22/10/2025 21:34

Interesting, thankfully I'm not in this position with teens now but a couple of mine DC went to catered and shared bathrooms (as too lazy to clean an ensuite). The female bathrooms would definitely have been a risky environment for women . You would be mixing youngsters, alcohol, lack of adult oversight with showers..often late at night and perhaps when no one around. Even if trans person was "nice" it wouldn't be something I would support for a young adult leaving home for the first time.

Yes, I was a bit uncertain about mixed-sex flats where they share toilets, showers etc - too many reports of men leaving cameras in spaces like this for me to feel it was an entirely good idea! But to be honest, they’d probably both prefer en-suite - better cleaning up your own mess than having to deal with someone else’s (male or female!)

Any experience with courses as different uni’s? Thinking sociology, psychology, criminology, anthropology etc, where really sex is relevant, but seems to be being overtaken by gender?

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Heggettypeg · 22/10/2025 22:01

Has Aston Uni repented of its antiTERF data-scraping shenanigans or is it still unregenerate? Where did Mumsnet get to with that? I never heard the end of the story, so it may be still ongoing.

Readingtonian · 22/10/2025 21:54

Reading has confirmed it will comply with the Supreme Court ruling (AFAIK it's the only university to do so - I haven't seen any others making statements about it) and has been excellent about protecting freedom of speech.

Pleasealexa · 22/10/2025 21:34

Dragonasaurus · 17/10/2025 16:39

I don’t think either of my girls would mind sharing a(n en-suite) flat with a trans person (of either sex) because they both said they’d be happy in a mixed-sex flat. They do care that their toilets/changing rooms/sports teams (where applicable) are segregated by sex not gender. I’m also concerned that their courses aren’t biased in a way that means their GC views are problematic

Interesting, thankfully I'm not in this position with teens now but a couple of mine DC went to catered and shared bathrooms (as too lazy to clean an ensuite). The female bathrooms would definitely have been a risky environment for women . You would be mixing youngsters, alcohol, lack of adult oversight with showers..often late at night and perhaps when no one around. Even if trans person was "nice" it wouldn't be something I would support for a young adult leaving home for the first time.

JollyMintWasp · 22/10/2025 21:28

that’s actually a really good question to be asking before applying. unis tend to give very vague answers when it comes to policy around single-sex spaces or safeguarding. i’ve heard mixed things, oxford reportedly has clearer boundaries on that, while places like edinburgh and bristol have had ongoing debates and student protests. depends a lot on how active student unions are too.

Ariana12 · 17/10/2025 17:36

StoreBoughtWoman · 16/10/2025 20:43

Reading defended Rosa Freedman and employ Jo Phoenix. There was also a campus protest after the SC ruling when they told students to use the correct toilets for their sex.

I think Reading Uni really comes out tops. Oxford and Cambridge facilities seem to be OK when provided by the Uni. But within Colleges I understand it's more mixed and some are def unacceptable.

roundandroundthegarden123 · 17/10/2025 17:18

St Andrews - mostly gender neutral but in faculty buildings they are all single cubicles off the main corridors. Due to plumbing there are only a few toilet cubicles on each floor so practically that works. There are also some single sex shere

Dragonasaurus · 17/10/2025 16:39

MagpiePi · 17/10/2025 15:23

I wonder how many women will apply for the sharing with a trans person option?

I don’t think either of my girls would mind sharing a(n en-suite) flat with a trans person (of either sex) because they both said they’d be happy in a mixed-sex flat. They do care that their toilets/changing rooms/sports teams (where applicable) are segregated by sex not gender. I’m also concerned that their courses aren’t biased in a way that means their GC views are problematic

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ParmaVioletTea · 17/10/2025 16:21

My place was full on wokerati, but the advice that anyone should use the lavatories/changing rooms they felt aligned with their identity (which had been the trumpeted policy, written by trans students, apparently, not even grown ups!) magically disappeared from our website after the SC ruling.

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user1494050295 · 17/10/2025 15:57

LSE has a few gender neutral loos with lots of loos labelled boys girls disabled. And thankfully left Stonewall too

Igmum · 17/10/2025 15:50

Dragonasaurus · 17/10/2025 14:45

Oh that’s useful, do you know if she plans to publish it, or do I need to try contacting her directly?
Some of my friends have written to different unis, but not heard anything back so far. I’ll report back if that changes/when we feel they’ve had enough time & reminders to assume they are ignoring

I'm assuming she intends to publish it and embarass the hell out of the sector (because most, if not all, won't be following the law) but haven't the foggiest idea about her timelines [for info to others on the thread, this is about Jo Phoenix collecting data on university policies about toilet and changing room access]

sassanach · 17/10/2025 15:46

Stirling University has gender neutral toilets and I used to work at Glasgow university and still have friends there - they don't respect women's rights.

mypronounsaremine · 17/10/2025 15:29

University of Edinburgh has a policy that “All students can use the toilet facilities that align with their gender identity” Trans Policy (Students).pdf.pdf (Paragraph 8.2).

There are many multiple-occupancy toilets on campus labelled M or F, but as the equality impact assessment for that policy admits: “The University recognises that, as a matter of law, access to facilities on the basis of gender identity makes those facilities mixed-sex rather than single sex facilities.” StatementStudentExperienceTransPolicy(Students)EqIAFeb_2025.pdf
Staff policies are the same.

If that puts you off going there, then please do write and tell them so.

There's a figleaf claim that “We mitigate this risk by providing single occupancy toilet facilities throughout our estate, alongside more open and/or mixed options”. While it's true there are some single occupancy facilities in some buildings, it's by no means common.

MagpiePi · 17/10/2025 15:23

Dragonasaurus · 17/10/2025 15:18

Actually she did say that too - that you could apply for single-sex or mixed-sex. She also thought that if you wanted you could indicate you were happy to share with trans people in mixed-sex accommodation - which all sounded great. After all, you’d hope uni’s were putting together groups who might get on, not trying to set up tensions from day one!
So Bath is def worth a look

I wonder how many women will apply for the sharing with a trans person option?

Dragonasaurus · 17/10/2025 15:18

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 17/10/2025 15:03

I believe that Bath accommodations state that if you request LGBTQ-friendly accommodation, you cannot also apply for single-sex accommodation. I took that as meaning that they acknowledge that single-sex accommodation must do what it says on the tin. (I could be interpreting incorrectly…)

Actually she did say that too - that you could apply for single-sex or mixed-sex. She also thought that if you wanted you could indicate you were happy to share with trans people in mixed-sex accommodation - which all sounded great. After all, you’d hope uni’s were putting together groups who might get on, not trying to set up tensions from day one!
So Bath is def worth a look

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Chrysanthemum5 · 17/10/2025 15:17

When Michael Foran was still at Glasgow their senior leadership defended him from the TRA bullies so I hope that university may be ok?

Edinburgh is, as we all know, beyond saving and totally captured

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 17/10/2025 15:03

Dragonasaurus · 17/10/2025 13:39

🤦‍♀️
A friend was at Bath open day at the weekend, and noted that the toilets were labelled male and female, but of course she has no sight of internal instructions to use whichever…

I believe that Bath accommodations state that if you request LGBTQ-friendly accommodation, you cannot also apply for single-sex accommodation. I took that as meaning that they acknowledge that single-sex accommodation must do what it says on the tin. (I could be interpreting incorrectly…)

ShinyBlueTractor · 17/10/2025 14:53

Niminy · 17/10/2025 14:19

I know a couple of people at York. More TWAW than a TWAW thing on a TWAW day.

scores through York on list

KitsyWitsy · 17/10/2025 14:48

A lot of the toilets at Hull are mixed sex but you can go to the other blocks to the old, separate toilets. I usually use the disabled ones in my building as I don't feel comfortable with all the men in the other toilets not to mention they are disgusting. More unflushed toilets than just ladies.

Dragonasaurus · 17/10/2025 14:45

Igmum · 17/10/2025 14:27

I think Jo Phoenix is collecting all of this data - not sure what is happening to this atm but hopefully universities will be embarassed into action

Oh that’s useful, do you know if she plans to publish it, or do I need to try contacting her directly?
Some of my friends have written to different unis, but not heard anything back so far. I’ll report back if that changes/when we feel they’ve had enough time & reminders to assume they are ignoring

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