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Update on the National Library of Scotland debacle.

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 15/10/2025 21:17

After the NLS removed The Women Who Wouldn’t Wheesht from the Dear Library Exhibition they received so many complaints The Library commissioned an independent review of the process leading up to the decision not to include the book.

This reviewer, an advocate and independent member of the Scottish Bar, was asked to investigate:

  • The process for the public nomination
  • The initial selection of items for the exhibition
  • The decision to review the initial selection
  • Whether appropriate corporate governance processes, including equality impacts assessments were followed throughout
  • What influencing factors may have contributed to the decision.

As one of the many people who lodge a complaint, I received an email today with the finds of the investigation. I can’t link to it, because it’s just a document, and I couldn’t find a copy of it on the NLS’s website, although it due to be posted there. I thought I'd post this in case anyone was wondering how it all turned out

Investigator's Summary
The process for public nomination and selection of books to be included in The Book That Shaped Me was reasonable and appropriate. The LGBT Staff Network and allies raised concerns that 'The Women Who Wouldn't Wheesht' had been selected, because members considered it was discriminatory and exclusionary and involved a risk of serious harm to staff and visitors. Those concerns were appropriately escalated, and the National Librarian ultimately assumed responsibility for deciding whether the book should be included. She decided it should not, and that was supported by the Chair of the Board. That decision was based on inadequate risk assessment, informed by inadequate evidence and consultation. The decision did not uphold the aims set out in the Library's Equality, Diversity, and Inclusion policy.

By my reading of the report, it’s clear that the CEO and the Chair of the Board caved to pressure from the alphabettie Staff Action Group.
The investigated didn’t buy any of the sorry excuses that the staff gave for it being withdrawn, the report corrected a couple of what I would call lies, but the investigator didn’t, that were put forward in an attempt to justify the action.

The 2 main reason’s the Staff Group gave were the book contravened the NLS EDL policy, and that having in the exhibition would be a threat to the safety of staff.

The report points out that excluding a book written by gender critical women was not inclusive, and that by pulling the book the NLS were the ones who contravened their own EDI policy. It also stated that neither the CEO nor Chair made any attempt to risk assess the alleged threat to staff.

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ArabellaSaurus · 26/11/2025 08:38

Éistibh a luchd an tighe-se
re scél na mbod bríoghmhar

OhBuggerandArse · 26/11/2025 08:25

I think he's moving onto his next 'transition' - busy just now re-inventing himself as a 'Gaelic writer' (because Shetland isn't exotic enough/doesn't open up dedicated minority language funding streams in the same way?) It's great, do a quick Gaelic course and—hey presto—you can start dipping into pots of money that were designed to encourage and support actual Gaelic writers. Cultural cosplay as a funding strategy - remind anyone of anything? It’s exploitative in the most predictable way: extract value from the culture, contribute nothing of value back, and call it opportunity.

ArabellaSaurus · 26/11/2025 07:26

OhBuggerandArse · 25/11/2025 22:20

'Poet' should read 'unhinged trans activist whose modest early promise has been completely eclipsed by his years of spearheading the obsessive and vindictive hounding of women writers, harassment-by-process of literary organisations, and most prominently in recent times, yelling 'give us wombs and give us titties' into a megaphone in the public square.'

Forward prize collection had about five pages of gurning on the subject of muh transition.

Eventually, surely even he will get bored?

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 26/11/2025 07:24

Maybe the sequel to the book that shall not be named should be a dictionary
With Uxbridge and Oxford English definitions of things like harassment and harm

ArabellaSaurus · 26/11/2025 07:21

'Harassment' means women speaking to them, when said women have not yet had their brains examined for wrongthink, and when a large number of women are known to believe there are only two sexes, and sex is immutable, and have refused to submit themselves for reeducation training at the gulag as decreed by the Equality Network.

I expect.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 26/11/2025 06:30

"We stand in solidarity with queer and trans staff at the National Library of Scotland, who in recent months have been subject to harassment and bigotry in their workplace."

I demand proof of this claim, it's blatantly absurd and should be challenged forthwith.

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OhBuggerandArse · 25/11/2025 22:20

'Poet' should read 'unhinged trans activist whose modest early promise has been completely eclipsed by his years of spearheading the obsessive and vindictive hounding of women writers, harassment-by-process of literary organisations, and most prominently in recent times, yelling 'give us wombs and give us titties' into a megaphone in the public square.'

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 22:05

Wow, 'poet' got scare quotes!

😶

''We hope the Board and senior managers of the National Library of Scotland will see this for what it is, a form of McCarthyism which should not be indulged further and has no place in contemporary Scotland.''

hear, hear.

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 22:00

'The letter has been handed to senior management before a board meeting on Thursday who are expected to discuss the fallout from the first book ban.'

https://www.nls.uk/about-us/who-and-what/leadership-and-governance/board/about-the-board/

Contact
You can contact the Chair of the Board by writing to them at the Library or by emailing [email protected].

About the Board | National Library of Scotland

Learn about the governance of the Board and how to contact them.

https://www.nls.uk/about-us/who-and-what/leadership-and-governance/board/about-the-board

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 21:59

''This is no way for Scotland's cultural life to be conducted.
'Stifle the voices of people whose views you disagree with, or disapprove of, and you are left with a society where only a tiny, well-connected elite thrive.
'The signatories of this letter, who claim to be drawn from the ‘academic, heritage, arts, literary and cultural sectors’, should be the very people arguing against censorship. Instead, they try to justify it by claiming “inclusivity” for themselves.''

Hear, hear.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 25/11/2025 13:09

The book that shall not be named

the dark words

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 12:36

lcakethereforeIam · 25/11/2025 12:24

Why are they avoiding naming the book? It's not the Candyman or Beetlejuice, ffs!

I wish they'd provide one example of the 'actual physical harm' they allege has been suffered. Not including that which is entirely self inflicted by their own bigotry and intolerance.

Yes, I noticed 'a certain book'.

The better analogy is probably Voldemort.

lcakethereforeIam · 25/11/2025 12:24

Why are they avoiding naming the book? It's not the Candyman or Beetlejuice, ffs!

I wish they'd provide one example of the 'actual physical harm' they allege has been suffered. Not including that which is entirely self inflicted by their own bigotry and intolerance.

SidewaysOtter · 25/11/2025 12:05

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 25/11/2025 11:12

It’s just so depressing

libraries and librarians are custodians, not curators

where I work we’ve Mein Kampf and David Irving on the shelves, I don’t like it but it’s how it goes

My family have got a copy of Mein Kampf, it was in a box of random books bought from a second-hand stall. I've flicked through it and it's the most god-awful dirge.

Books - however disliked - should be available for reading to understand what they actually say, because otherwise they take on a mythic status that becomes whatever anyone wants them to say, and no-one can counteract it because they haven't read it. And you have to actually read something in order to properly criticise it!

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 11:24

An amount of curatorship is probably inevitable, but there should at least be attempts to be neutral or disengaged and not partisan.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 25/11/2025 11:12

It’s just so depressing

libraries and librarians are custodians, not curators

where I work we’ve Mein Kampf and David Irving on the shelves, I don’t like it but it’s how it goes

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 10:42

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 25/11/2025 10:32

Sometimes I feel the most useful things a trans activist could do is get a clearer idea of what “actual physical harm” actually entails
i I don’t want them beaten up, but maybe watch some videos or read a transcript of a victim statement and medical report , and then apply it to their own situations
Also a quick course in the dangers of hyperbole and exaggeration and how it really doesn’t win hearts or minds

They could do a lot worse than reading some fables. Including The boy who cried wolf, and the emperor's new clothes.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 25/11/2025 10:32

Sometimes I feel the most useful things a trans activist could do is get a clearer idea of what “actual physical harm” actually entails
i I don’t want them beaten up, but maybe watch some videos or read a transcript of a victim statement and medical report , and then apply it to their own situations
Also a quick course in the dangers of hyperbole and exaggeration and how it really doesn’t win hearts or minds

SinnerBoy · 25/11/2025 10:32

To sum up:

There is no anti trans stuff, we made that up for emotional blackmail purposes. We are sad that the library has now followed the law, after its illegal discrimination and want them to break it again. We are inclusive, unless you have legally held, legally protected views, with which we disagree.

Waaaaah!

Alpacajigsaw · 25/11/2025 08:52

I’m so fed up of this notion that having the wrong opinions causes “harm” or people being “unsafe”. Just fuck off.

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 08:48

Sorry, I have seen the list of names, but not sure if it's okay to share.

What they're asking for is on the face of it just for a statement that all people are welcome. That's cool. I can get behind that.

I'd caution that this may have been created as a precursor to another power grab, though. Especially with the new board/chair incoming.

OhBuggerandArse · 25/11/2025 08:40

can you see the rest of the names?

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 08:09

I mean, 110 people is fuck all. Many notable absences on that list, including some I'd have expected to add their names veey swiftly.

OhBuggerandArse · 25/11/2025 07:57

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 07:37

Its very weak. And I note the paucity of signatories.

The list of 110 isn't all copied in the images.