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157 replies

hholiday · 08/10/2025 07:17

Apparently features Stephen Fry, which seems absolutely the right thing, given how he has already betrayed women/ gay/ lesbian rights.

Also Tom Daley - similar. Which other celebrities should go in there on these grounds? Gary Lineker? David Tennant?

Much though I love Claudia, I think the women’s rights version should be hosted by JK. And be Harry Potter themed.

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 08/10/2025 22:38

I love it when an ambiguously named FWR thread shows up in active and we pick up a load of puzzled normies

<drags self back to the cesspit of hate>

come on in, the water's lovely!

intrepidgiraffe · 08/10/2025 22:38

I know this is your little corner of Mumsnet and we should just leave you all to it, but since this comes up in the active section (ie we don’t actively seek you out) you should expect some of the criticism you’ve received here. It is just so strange to me that literally every single thing is viewed through your ‘gender critical’ lens. There’s lots of things I care about too, but I’m not obsessed with them in the same way. Baffling.

inkymoose · 08/10/2025 22:37

ArabellaSaurus · 08/10/2025 22:17

Cispit?

Hahahaa! That's the first time I've ever found the term "cis" funny Grin

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 08/10/2025 22:34

Waitwhat23 · 08/10/2025 21:45

Ooh, I see the current ploppers cheat sheet is assiduously being used -

2 uses of cesspit so far
1 use of frothing
1 Examine yourself

Shall we take bets on the rest of it?

Examine yourself - i did check my boobs yesterday , does that count?

Justnot · 08/10/2025 22:34

You lot are on fire

NotBadConsidering · 08/10/2025 22:31

That’s either a hate term or how New Zealanders pronounce it.

ArabellaSaurus · 08/10/2025 22:17

Cispit?

NotBadConsidering · 08/10/2025 22:15

I were in pits before they were cess, and it was just a bit of dislike, not hate. Don’t know how lucky you are.

ArabellaSaurus · 08/10/2025 21:47

Cesspit of hate.

When I were young it were a nest o vipers, and I was grateful.

Waitwhat23 · 08/10/2025 21:45

Ooh, I see the current ploppers cheat sheet is assiduously being used -

2 uses of cesspit so far
1 use of frothing
1 Examine yourself

Shall we take bets on the rest of it?

ArabellaSaurus · 08/10/2025 21:43

'cesspit of hate' the phrase du jour, then?

Sounds like we're in a death metal band.

🤘

Justthethingsthatyoudointhisgarden · 08/10/2025 21:38

So overjoyed this cesspit of hate showed up on my feed.

PaterPower · 08/10/2025 21:31

Absentosaur · 08/10/2025 21:22

Well he thinks that the girls overrated in Rochdale were ‘child prostitutes’, amongst other things. See link

https://feministlegal.org/the-shameful-secrets-of-stephen-fry-malcolm-richard-clark/

Edited

Not even touching on his ‘interesting’ (published) views on pederasty.

PaterPower · 08/10/2025 21:30

LEWWSH · 08/10/2025 20:35

Pretty sure statistically women are more at risk from straight, cis gender men than anyone trans. Very odd post. As this is a Mumsnet site, I really really hope that none of these parents who are transphobic through bigotry or ignorance have a child who comes out as trans. They’ll be in for a rough ride! 😢

That’s not what the prison stats would suggest, which is that trans identifying men are overrepresented amongst offenders convicted of sex crimes.

And that’s ignoring the nonsense of your “straight, cis gender” statement. ‘Lesbian’ TiMs are also straight men.

Mollyollydolly · 08/10/2025 21:14

Has anyone seen the clip from Big Brother? I don't watch either programmes but some woman on it has been threatened with eviction for asking a Pansexual did they like pans and that transmen don't have a penis. It's all over X. The clip of her being told off is really quite disturbing. I suppose she should be grateful they didn't put a bucket of rats on her head.
Hope she takes them to court when she gets out for expressing perfectly legal opinions.

x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1975807495785644507

BettyBooper · 08/10/2025 21:13

Boy George

Waitwhat23 · 08/10/2025 21:10

sandwichconsumer · 08/10/2025 21:07

Joanne Harris.

Along the same idea, Clara Vulliamy

sandwichconsumer · 08/10/2025 21:07

Joanne Harris.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/10/2025 20:59

LEWWSH · 08/10/2025 20:35

Pretty sure statistically women are more at risk from straight, cis gender men than anyone trans. Very odd post. As this is a Mumsnet site, I really really hope that none of these parents who are transphobic through bigotry or ignorance have a child who comes out as trans. They’ll be in for a rough ride! 😢

They’re more at risk from men, regardless of gender identity.

ArabellaSaurus · 08/10/2025 20:58

Waitwhat23 · 08/10/2025 20:46

I think the bus driver for the Reddit return journey must be on his tea break. He's probably popped to shop to get a cheeky wee packet of Jammie Dodgers to go with his tea. He's not sharing, mind!

Tell him to get a shift on. It's a school night!

NotBadConsidering · 08/10/2025 20:57

BridasShieldWall · 08/10/2025 08:28

How long before someone says Stephen Fry would make a good traitor because he is soooo intelligent.

See also, it doesn’t matter that Tom Daley deigns to know what a woman is when he wants to use their body to provide him with a baby because he KNITS.

ArabellaSaurus · 08/10/2025 20:56

LEWWSH · 08/10/2025 20:35

Pretty sure statistically women are more at risk from straight, cis gender men than anyone trans. Very odd post. As this is a Mumsnet site, I really really hope that none of these parents who are transphobic through bigotry or ignorance have a child who comes out as trans. They’ll be in for a rough ride! 😢

You are misinformed. It's not whether a person is 'trans' or not that is the pertinent risk factor. It's their sex.

Although, worth looking at the prison stats for proportion of transwomen who are sex offenders, if you're into data.

Dragonasaurus · 08/10/2025 20:54

LEWWSH · 08/10/2025 20:35

Pretty sure statistically women are more at risk from straight, cis gender men than anyone trans. Very odd post. As this is a Mumsnet site, I really really hope that none of these parents who are transphobic through bigotry or ignorance have a child who comes out as trans. They’ll be in for a rough ride! 😢

Oh excellent, an actual discussion point. Not about the thread topic, but I guess you’re still learning

btw, check out those MoJ statistics first though, we’ve all already seen that this point is factually incorrect