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Celebrity Traitors

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hholiday · 08/10/2025 07:17

Apparently features Stephen Fry, which seems absolutely the right thing, given how he has already betrayed women/ gay/ lesbian rights.

Also Tom Daley - similar. Which other celebrities should go in there on these grounds? Gary Lineker? David Tennant?

Much though I love Claudia, I think the women’s rights version should be hosted by JK. And be Harry Potter themed.

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hholiday · 11/10/2025 07:02

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 11/10/2025 06:58

I’ve seen a few clangers that I’ve really enjoyed. I want to see whether the programme makers set up the celebs the way they do the proles. Because agents aren’t going to like that!

Stephen informed someone that Scotland is a very beautiful country. Made it sound like a pearl of wisdom he was beneficently sharing!

i love Suzanne Moore’s description of him. ‘Stephen Fry – who identifies as intelligent’!

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PrizedPickledPopcorn · 11/10/2025 06:58

I’ve seen a few clangers that I’ve really enjoyed. I want to see whether the programme makers set up the celebs the way they do the proles. Because agents aren’t going to like that!

Stephen informed someone that Scotland is a very beautiful country. Made it sound like a pearl of wisdom he was beneficently sharing!

RedToothBrush · 11/10/2025 04:45

“You can’t just call someone a Traitor because they have a better vocabulary than you.” about Kate Garaway from Alan Carr to Tom Daylee (sic) was epic.

Interesting that Tom has gone for the intelligent woman of a certain age.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 09/10/2025 20:48

The 'rights aren't pie' argument is one of the reasons FWS were very clever to base their case on the women on public boards regulations. Those right are very clearly pie, and easily shown mathematically.

If there are 5 board places for women and a transwoman takes one of them, women go from having 5 slices of pie to having 4. If transwomen take 5 places, they have all the pie and women have none.

Screamingabdabz · 09/10/2025 20:25

Atina321 · 09/10/2025 16:59

So good you quoted me twice 🤣🤣

This is not a feminist space despite being labelled as such.

It is a space full of people who seem to think that more rights for someone else means less rights for them.

It doesn’t work that way.

The justifications people here try to use to absolve themselves of responsibility is outstanding.

Yeah… you’re just making yourself look silly now.

feministmom4ever · 09/10/2025 18:39

John Oliver

WilfredsPies · 09/10/2025 18:36

Atina321 · 09/10/2025 16:59

So good you quoted me twice 🤣🤣

This is not a feminist space despite being labelled as such.

It is a space full of people who seem to think that more rights for someone else means less rights for them.

It doesn’t work that way.

The justifications people here try to use to absolve themselves of responsibility is outstanding.

It is a space full of people who seem to think that more rights for someone else means less rights for them I don’t think you’ve thought this through. It absolutely does work that way. The rights that TRAs are demanding include immediate and unlimited access to all single sex spaces, without question or impediment. That immediately removes my rights to have a single sex space. Do you understand that? Or have you just got really confused and think we’ve all got the hump about lengthening the queue in the loos? I cannot have my right to a single sex space if Tims are given the rights they are demanding. I don’t know how else to explain it. Their demands require that I give up my rights. There are no other rights that adult members of the trans community are denied.

Waitwhat23 · 09/10/2025 18:16

Atina321 · 09/10/2025 16:59

So good you quoted me twice 🤣🤣

This is not a feminist space despite being labelled as such.

It is a space full of people who seem to think that more rights for someone else means less rights for them.

It doesn’t work that way.

The justifications people here try to use to absolve themselves of responsibility is outstanding.

If you're advocating for the removal of women's legal rights to single sex services, which are detailed in the EQA2010 and were confirmed by the Supreme Court judgement in April, then you are absolutely lessening the rights of women in order to benefit men.

And that's definitely not feminist. More male supremacist really.

(And the 'rights aren't a pie' argument? Soooo 2018)

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/10/2025 18:08

This is a feminist space, I imagine you’ve never been in one before. Here we centre the needs of women and girls. I’m sure that’s a novelty.

Atina321 · 09/10/2025 16:59

Screamingabdabz · 09/10/2025 16:42

Your warped worldview of coming on to a feminist board and saying those things is depressing and grossly inappropriate. And just plain wrong.

So good you quoted me twice 🤣🤣

This is not a feminist space despite being labelled as such.

It is a space full of people who seem to think that more rights for someone else means less rights for them.

It doesn’t work that way.

The justifications people here try to use to absolve themselves of responsibility is outstanding.

Screamingabdabz · 09/10/2025 16:42

Atina321 · 09/10/2025 12:40

Racists, transphobes, misogynists - all here. It is depressing.

Your warped worldview of coming on to a feminist board and saying those things is depressing and grossly inappropriate. And just plain wrong.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/10/2025 13:52

It’s particularly amusing that they’re all further bumping it in Active.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/10/2025 13:51

Screamingabdabz · 09/10/2025 12:01

How ironic that the ‘baffled’ posters who’ve taken a wrong turn from ‘active’ complain about hating and frothing and cesspits but I only see one set of posters demonstrating those qualities.

Some people really, really don’t give a shit about the dignity and protections of women and girls do they? So depressing. 😔

This.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 09/10/2025 13:15

Theroadt · 09/10/2025 10:35

I thought this was a fun thread about Celeb Traitors? This veer is so tedious - use another thread for that debate.

According to some posters on the thread, your idea of fun is 'transphobic', or didn't you read the comments before you plopped.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 09/10/2025 13:13

Atina321 · 09/10/2025 12:40

Racists, transphobes, misogynists - all here. It is depressing.

Yawn 🥱

GCman · 09/10/2025 13:09

Atina321 · 09/10/2025 12:40

Racists, transphobes, misogynists - all here. It is depressing.

Absolute rubbish, post the links to any of this you've seen in FWR.

I'll wait.

Atina321 · 09/10/2025 12:40

Jallypally · 08/10/2025 14:04

This site is just a cesspool of transphobes, isn’t it?

Racists, transphobes, misogynists - all here. It is depressing.

Umidontknow · 09/10/2025 12:33

Absentosaur · 08/10/2025 21:22

Well he thinks that the girls overrated in Rochdale were ‘child prostitutes’, amongst other things. See link

https://feministlegal.org/the-shameful-secrets-of-stephen-fry-malcolm-richard-clark/

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Oh - yikes 😬

Screamingabdabz · 09/10/2025 12:01

How ironic that the ‘baffled’ posters who’ve taken a wrong turn from ‘active’ complain about hating and frothing and cesspits but I only see one set of posters demonstrating those qualities.

Some people really, really don’t give a shit about the dignity and protections of women and girls do they? So depressing. 😔

GCman · 09/10/2025 11:54

Theroadt · 09/10/2025 10:35

I thought this was a fun thread about Celeb Traitors? This veer is so tedious - use another thread for that debate.

Why do you hate women?

hholiday · 09/10/2025 11:50

Theroadt · 09/10/2025 10:35

I thought this was a fun thread about Celeb Traitors? This veer is so tedious - use another thread for that debate.

Sorry you find women’s rights tedious

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/10/2025 11:46

DahnFrumLunden · 09/10/2025 06:16

Traitors? Read a lot of the Daily Mail, do you?

Ooh burn

Oh no, not really

Yellow Balloon Falling GIF by Barbara Pozzi
Greyskybluesky · 09/10/2025 11:18

Theroadt · 09/10/2025 10:35

I thought this was a fun thread about Celeb Traitors? This veer is so tedious - use another thread for that debate.

You're on the feminism board.

Haulage · 09/10/2025 10:39

Greyskybluesky · 09/10/2025 00:11

Just raw onions? What kind of bread? Any condiments? Much more detail required.

Oh and onions are transphobic BTW

Raw onion sandwiches - white bread, butter, onion (raw, sliced, plentiful), sprinkling of salt. I first discovered these when visiting family in Ireland as a kid. They’re lovely.

@intrepidgiraffe It is just so strange to me that literally every single thing is viewed through your ‘gender critical’ lens that’s feminism you’re observing.

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Theroadt · 09/10/2025 10:35

hholiday · 09/10/2025 07:05

Women are at risk from men full stop – it doesn’t matter how they identify. Proportionally, there are more people in prison who identify as trans who have been convicted of sex crimes than the cis white men you reference (although there are obviously far more of the latter in prison). Here is a reference if you want to read more about it: https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-sex-offences/

And a lot of women on this board have been or are in precisely the situation you reference. That is why a lot women are here – because they care about other women and children. I think you need to ask yourself whether the men behind the demonisation of feminism also have those good intentions.

I thought this was a fun thread about Celeb Traitors? This veer is so tedious - use another thread for that debate.