J.K Rowling's Position

I see Howie is using this thread to share his remarkable range of anti semitic, homophobic, anti safeguarding and misogynistic views. Quite the performance this morning

As @FortheloveofPetethePlumber has pointed out:

"..it's pointless trying to use objective reason with someone living in an alternative reality where all unwanted facts and evidence are invisible, and it's pointless trying to convince a misogynist to permit women any rights.."

You just like everyone else would distinguish women from men by gendered stereotypes in practice because you would rarely know for sure another's 'biological' sex status.

And don't waste my time telling me you can 'tell' because you can't.

Sorry, this doesn’t make sense. What gender stereotype do I maintain?

Have we moved on from you stumbling around posting links you haven’t read that you didn’t realise don’t say JKR is antisemitic like you thought it did?

Says the person who maintains gender stereotype & doesn't know it…

It's not only that you can't comprehend basic social categorisations but that you can't even recognise your own culpability in them. Gender critical ideology argumentation is like watching a blind man drive a car…'but but men in dressessssss'

There’s another book I’d wager you haven’t read and don’t know where it’s from.

Yeah & how do square that? Identifying jewish tropes is 'antisemitism' now?

2+2 = 5..

Says the person who thinks humans can change sex 🤣🤣🤣

Uh huh, a hooked nosed 'goblin' who controls alll the money….

Denial of reality is text book cultism.

So when are you going to address your own antisemitism?

YOU are the only one drawing parallels between goblins and Jewish people.

I think you are projecting. If your ‘argument’ is reduced to purely dog whistles you have no argument. Maybe go chat with the dogs, see what they think.

“Slipping”. Based on false accusations from 2022 and earlier? This is your brand new information? You amaze us all. How do you stay so on top of rapidly changing current events?

Oh dear, someone's having trouble accepting the queen's mask slipping…😂

Are you quite well? You don’t seem to be able to piece together your argument properly. It’s descended (started from?) to place of “it’s the way she said it” which is quite immature. Can you do better? Maybe have a lie down and a think and come back to us.

Um, pictures speak louder than words.

Of course they didn't directly accuse her. Madam 'freedom of speech' is lawyer trigger happy.

All her accusers took a lesson out of her own dog whistling playbook & let the trope speak for itself.

Can you point to the part that says JKR is anti-Semitic? It might be after the part where the author says he doesn’t see evidence she is anti-Semitic. Maybe point it out for all of us.

Note that the article carefully avoids quoting any of JK Rowling's words, instead relying on insinuation that the HP goblins must be an "anti-Semitic caricature" without even attempting to argue or demonstrate it.

Despite that, the author eventually concludes that JKR isn't actually antisemitic. So if that in particular was the point you were making by linking this article, then we can agree.

Can you point to what part of using well worn anti semitic tropes of big nosed greedy controlling jewish bankers isn't anti semitic?

Can you point to the part of the article you linked to someone on Medium that says JKR is anti-Semitic?

You don’t seem very sharp. Are you ok?

Please do point to any contradictions, you have the floor!

Did you read the article you linked? I don’t think you did. Why don’t you click on it and read it.

Shooting the messenger?

Deny, deny, denial….

Do you outsource all your views to poorly-argued blog posts? Put some effort in to your arguments, please.

“It's no more a threat to warn someone that if they run across a busy road they might get run over than it is to notice that violently oppressing people will end up in violent push back. Facts aren't threats. Normal people find them useful as a way to mitigate predictive damage.”

I see. So women saying ‘no!’ to a group of male people who demand to be treated as something they are not, have been warned of the consequences of their actions. Drivers can be reasonably be said to accidentally harm someone crossing the road unpredictably, do you feel that male people cannot be responsibly expected to not respond to hearing that they shouldn’t access female single sex provisions with threats and violence?

Thank you for the analogy, it is again very illustrative.

So too are these:

“ You find the same sort of derangement from extremists every time police warn women to take care that a serial rapist is in their jurisdiction. 'How dare you!'

I suppose warning children to take care not to get in a strangers car is some sort of attack on their freedom too?

I mean, do you even recognise the hypocrisy of warning 'mean words beget mean actions' & following up with 'how dare you warn me not to use mean words because they will end in mean actions'. “

Thank you for warning women that if we exclude male people from doing what they want to, we should expect threats and violence in return. It is the inevitable end point.

Thank you for warning us that we should not expect male people who feel oppressed by legitimate exclusion to act appropriately.

You have done such great work in enlightening me today that, indeed, I should accept the consequences of my own actions of acting so irresponsibly by putting a male person in the position where they could not reasonably be expected to act with respect.

And of course, using the statements you have made today and yesterday, I see now that women must have provoked those responses by male people in the links provided, if not directly than indirectly. I can see that any women being abused, assaulted, threatened must have provoked it. If they didn’t personally provoke it, they belong to a category of people who did provoke it so therefore the reaction is inevitable.

Thank you for enlightening me.

“Yeah, as you've repeatedly been told its called 'not sneering at trans people as dangerous mentally ill sexual predators who don't have a right to self determination'.”

Thanks for confirming what you, personally, call women saying , ‘we need our single sex provisions to remain single sex’.

"And still you are leveraging the atrocities of the situation between Israel and Palestine.
Just like you told us that if women didn’t allow male people into our groups, then male people wouldn’t know how to treat women with respect.
Your point of mentioning it is vile.
Women, you saying no to these male people will lead to their retaliation! Just saying! Oh… no! I am not saying you would deserve it…. Just that this is where your denial of their access to your provisions will lead to them acting this way!"

Look for threats everywhere & you'll surely find them. Pathologically viewing the world only thru the lens of intimidation is textbook tunnel vision. IE Being unable to comprehend patterns that produce predictable outcomes with out associating it to some internalised fixation of being 'manipulated'. It's no more a threat to warn someone that if they run across a busy road they might get run over than it is to notice that violently oppressing people will end up in violent push back. Facts aren't threats. Normal people find them useful as a way to mitigate predictive damage.

You find the same sort of derangement from extremists every time police warn women to take care that a serial rapist is in their jurisdiction. 'How dare you!'

I suppose warning children to take care not to get in a strangers car is some sort of attack on their freedom too?

I mean, do you even recognise the hypocrisy of warning 'mean words beget mean actions' & following up with 'how dare you warn me not to use mean words because they will end in mean actions'.

"So, tell us, is there anyway that women can say, ‘we need our single sex provisions to remain single sex’ without it dehumanising and demonising those male people who a say they are female?"

Yeah, as you've repeatedly been told its called 'not sneering at trans people as dangerous mentally ill sexual predators who don't have a right to self determination'.