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Teacher asked DD how she IDs

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S1894PCohen · 01/10/2025 16:40

My DD is a tomboy - short hair and trousers all the way - but has always been very clear that she's a girl. While I respect how other people want to live their lives and their right to believe whatever bollocks they like, I don't do gender ideology and neither does she.
Ever since she's started secondary school, she's been asked by other kids if she's trans. It boils my piss and I've contacted the school about it but she tends to just tell people she's a girl and shrugs it off as she doesn't want to make a fuss.
However this week she was mistaken for a boy by a teacher. When she and her pals told her she was, in fact, a girl, the teacher took her aside at the end of the class and asked "how she identified" and if she'd "ever identified as anything other than a girl". DD says this teacher flies a pink and blue flag above her desk...
I am livid - it's bad enough DD gets this shit from other kids, let alone a teacher. I've no doubt the teacher thinks she's "being kind" but I feel her behaviour is steeped in reactionary gender stereotypes. I'm minded to complain - WWYD?

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RedToothBrush · 01/10/2025 18:42

Complain.

It's inappropriate to single your daughter out in this way.

WhereAreWeNow · 01/10/2025 18:20

I would complain.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/10/2025 18:13

Please complain OP.
Until teachers like this are challenged about imposing their niche belief in sex change on children, they'll continue to impose this dangerous to the young political ideology on children in schools. Children are too young to understand or negotiate all the dangerous aspects of this and it's just wrong that adults in authority are allowed to behave like this.

Realitizard · 01/10/2025 18:12

I had to look up what the “ blue and pink flag“ meant. I am actually gobsmacked that a teacher can signal and promote their sexual politics in school in this way. I’m really shocked. The fact that the teacher was also questioning your daughter about her sexual identity is also out of order. (It’s so intrusive, creepy even). I would say something to the school. Unfortunately, my experience has been that over the last decade or two some teachers take it upon themselves to promote various politics when they really have no business in doing that. My son’s friend’s secondary school had huge Pride banners erected over the entrance to the school a few years back.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 01/10/2025 17:59

If the teacher buys into gender ideology they'd be outraged at a pupil who said they are trans being asked, are you sure, have you ever ID'd as your birth sex?

Can you imagine the reaction?!

If it's not an acceptable question one way, it's not acceptable the other way.

No debate. Innit.

I do, in all seriousness, think it would be reasonable to raise with someone that DD was upset/mortified that she was questioned publicly on her gender identity and that her first answer wasn't accepted.

barthmat · 01/10/2025 17:57

OP, you should start a crowdfunder to sue the school - this teacher needs to be disciplined and ultimately fired.

I'm sure lots of people will be more than happy to support you with a little gardening.

DrowningInSyrup · 01/10/2025 17:56

InTheWellBeing · 01/10/2025 17:42

I’m not interested in hearing your gender wooo sweetheart

"Gender woo, sweetheart" I have no idea what you mean by this. Can you explain please?

TheMercies · 01/10/2025 17:51

Apart from anything else it's a very personal topic and not one that a teacher should be prying into. It's similar to asking whether she's ever been attracted to women. If your dd brought the subject up and wanted advice then it might be appropriate for a teacher to listen to her concerns before signposting to the appropriate source of info / help.
But for a teacher to ask such personal info without context and in front of another student, is completely out of order.

S1894PCohen · 01/10/2025 17:49

DeanElderberry · 01/10/2025 17:24

It would be if she wasn't living in a world that also houses fuckwits like the teacher mentioned in the OP.

This 👆

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S1894PCohen · 01/10/2025 17:47

InTheWellBeing · 01/10/2025 17:42

I’m not interested in hearing your gender wooo sweetheart

Who are you talking to here and what is your point?

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Peregrina · 01/10/2025 17:45

It's worth a complaint simply because your daughter was upset. I would also ask the school to make the teacher apologise to her.

InTheWellBeing · 01/10/2025 17:42

DrowningInSyrup · 01/10/2025 17:26

Oh for God's sake really? Where are you going with this?

I’m not interested in hearing your gender wooo sweetheart

S1894PCohen · 01/10/2025 17:28

InTheWellBeing · 01/10/2025 17:18

My DD is a tomboy - short hair and trousers all the way - but has always been very clear that she's a girl.

What do you mean by “has always been very clear that she's a girl”?

Other than being a biological female what does she do to make it clear?

I mean that she's never been sucked into any genderwoo.

She just likes having short hair and wearing trousers - which has always been, and will always be, fine by me.

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user2848502016 · 01/10/2025 17:27

S1894PCohen · 01/10/2025 16:57

DD was actually mortified. She shrugs off other kids' nonsense but it's different coming from a teacher. It was said in front of another kid too!

Well yeah if your DD was embarrassed by it I’d complain. Ridiculous nonsense to question her like that just for not looking sufficiently “girly”.

DrowningInSyrup · 01/10/2025 17:26

InTheWellBeing · 01/10/2025 17:18

My DD is a tomboy - short hair and trousers all the way - but has always been very clear that she's a girl.

What do you mean by “has always been very clear that she's a girl”?

Other than being a biological female what does she do to make it clear?

Oh for God's sake really? Where are you going with this?

LeftieRightsHoarder · 01/10/2025 17:24

DeanElderberry · 01/10/2025 17:10

It should be made very clear to that teacher that she can be as conformist as she likes if it makes her happy, but that your daughter is an independent-minded young woman who is not prepared to be boxed-in by archaic and harmful stereotypes.

Well said!

GoldenGate · 01/10/2025 17:24

S1894PCohen · 01/10/2025 16:50

I feel that once teacher had been told DD is a girl, it should have been left there.

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This! Not a teacher but I did mistake someones 13yo DS as a girl last weekend, probably due to the long hair and not getting a great view. She (mum) just politely said he not she and that was that.

DeanElderberry · 01/10/2025 17:24

It would be if she wasn't living in a world that also houses fuckwits like the teacher mentioned in the OP.

InTheWellBeing · 01/10/2025 17:22

InfoSecInTheCity · 01/10/2025 17:21

She exists as a female human being. What does she need to do to make it clear, why does she need to do anything? She is a girl because she was born female, the assumption should therefore always be that she ‘identifies’ as a girl.

That’s my point. The OP said

but has always been very clear that she's a girl.

I want to know what she means by that. Surely biology is enough 🤔

S1894PCohen · 01/10/2025 17:22

MyDeftHedgehog · 01/10/2025 17:12

Perhaps the teacher was erring on the side of caution given that people have found themselves in all sorts of shit "misgendering"

OK, but she'd already "misgendered" DD by calling her a boy and she'd been put right. It should have been left there.
She's not the first teacher to have mistaken DD for a boy but she is the first to have subjected her to further questioning about her gender ID instead of just accepting she got it wrong.

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Ddakji · 01/10/2025 17:21

MyDeftHedgehog · 01/10/2025 17:12

Perhaps the teacher was erring on the side of caution given that people have found themselves in all sorts of shit "misgendering"

Long past time for the grown ups to kick to bullshit that’s “misgendering” into touch.

InfoSecInTheCity · 01/10/2025 17:21

InTheWellBeing · 01/10/2025 17:18

My DD is a tomboy - short hair and trousers all the way - but has always been very clear that she's a girl.

What do you mean by “has always been very clear that she's a girl”?

Other than being a biological female what does she do to make it clear?

She exists as a female human being. What does she need to do to make it clear, why does she need to do anything? She is a girl because she was born female, the assumption should therefore always be that she ‘identifies’ as a girl.

InTheWellBeing · 01/10/2025 17:18

My DD is a tomboy - short hair and trousers all the way - but has always been very clear that she's a girl.

What do you mean by “has always been very clear that she's a girl”?

Other than being a biological female what does she do to make it clear?

LeftieRightsHoarder · 01/10/2025 17:13

Hoardasurass · 01/10/2025 16:55

I'd complain to the school about this teacher, her flag and the inappropriate questioning of your dd. That teacher has no right to foist her ideology on her students and whilst it maybe water off your dds back the next child might not be so strong to ignore the pressure

I agree. No ideology should be touted in schools. And genderism is a harmful ideology, from gaslighting children to abolishing women’s single-sex spaces to letting male sex fetishists give intimate ‘care’ to elderly women.

MyDeftHedgehog · 01/10/2025 17:12

S1894PCohen · 01/10/2025 16:53

Hmmm but surely being told once that DD is a girl should be enough? Why mither on about gender ID? Very intrusive.

Perhaps the teacher was erring on the side of caution given that people have found themselves in all sorts of shit "misgendering"