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Library talk equates single sex spaces with racism

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Mermoose · 01/10/2025 15:03

Terenure Library in Dublin will be hosting a talk by Dr Gillian Frank (despite his name he's a man, not trans identified) which appears to be equating single sex spaces for women with racism. Dr Frank is an Assistant Professor in the History of the Modern United States and teaches the MA level class on Gender Theory for the Program in Gender and Women's Studies at Trinity College Dublin.

His view that women having single sex spaces should be compared with racist segregation is not uncommon, it's one of the ways in which Professor Jo Phoenix was bullied. An employment tribunal found Open University accountable for direct discrimination and harassment which included her being called racist. https://sex-matters.org/case-briefings/jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university/

Ireland's public discussion on the issue of women's rights and how they conflict with the demands of trans activists has been abysmal. Gender critical people hardly ever get a chance to be heard here. That a library is platforming such a fatuous smear against us is pretty galling. I think Dr Frank should be free to make his stupid arguments. I think that women who wish to defend our rights should be given at least the opportunity to make a counterargument.

Library talk equates single sex spaces with racism
Library talk equates single sex spaces with racism
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Mermoose · 02/10/2025 07:26

Thanks @MarieDeGournay !
It's all just so disingenuous isn't it. And for the library to bill this as part of the Dublin Festival of History rather than a fairly obvious political diatribe.

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MarieDeGournay · 01/10/2025 22:37

This is what I posted about the synopsis of Dr Frank's talk, over on Craicnet:

That reads like a ChatGPT mishmash of groundless trans nonsense about what GC is really about. It even contains the trademark 'trans folk' and 'bathroom' instead of toilet🙄

What's striking about it is that it reflects the trans obsession with toilets. Where they want to pee. Why they should be allowed pee in the women's toilet. Where they are going to pee if we don't let them pee in the women's toilets. Why the UK Supreme Court are transphobic bigots for not legislating to allow the to pee in the women's toilets. (overlooking the fact that the SC only clarified existing law AND the case was about representation on boards, not about toilets.)

Dr Frank follows the TRA guidebook to the letter, and goes straight to the subject of sexual assaults in toilets. Bang, right there in the first sentence, under a huge photo of a toilet.
Nothing about the erasure women's rights in all the areas of society which do not take place in toilets.

Sometimes I wonder what the T in LGBT really stands for...😏

moggly · 01/10/2025 21:36

I wonder if he knows why we have sex segregated prisons.

Mermoose · 01/10/2025 18:33

I mean it'd be lovely if they turned round and invited Colette Colfer to give a talk on the similarities between religion and transgenderism, which Dr Frank might find fascinating 😁

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IwantToRetire · 01/10/2025 18:30

Mermoose · 01/10/2025 18:29

Yes IWantToRetire, although I'm not hopeful I'll get a useful response.

Well I hope you do.

Mermoose · 01/10/2025 18:29

Yes IWantToRetire, although I'm not hopeful I'll get a useful response.

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IwantToRetire · 01/10/2025 18:17

I think that women who wish to defend our rights should be given at least the opportunity to make a counterargument.

Is it worth emailing them or something to ask if they are going to give a voice to women talking about women's rights. ie not letting them think men telling women what they should think or behave is appropriate for a library.

Mermoose · 01/10/2025 17:03

I can’t help wondering what his evidence is for this claim.

No idea. But the whole thing is a mess - he's importing (his own take on) US history to Ireland, which is an entirely different country with an entirely different history. Meanwhile he's conveniently ignoring that even the likes of Amnesty were (until recently anyway) advocating sex segregated facilities as a necessity:

If this humanitarian crisis was unfolding anywhere else in the world we would expect immediate practical steps to be taken to protect groups most at risk of abuse, such as women travelling alone and female-headed families. At a minimum, this would include setting up single sex, well-lit toilet facilities and separate safe sleeping areas.

www.amnesty.ie/female-refugees-face-physical-assault-exploitation-and-sexual-harassment-on-their-journey-through-europe/

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JellySaurus · 01/10/2025 16:41

During the Second World War era conservatives began employing the idea that social equality for African-Americans would lead to sexual danger for white women in public bathrooms.

I can’t help wondering what his evidence is for this claim. Because I cannot see how even the most hardcore racist would claim that white women in the women’s toilets could be in danger of being raped by black men in the men’s toilets.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 01/10/2025 15:58

Hopefully the talk will be poorly attended and he'll end up pontificating his codswallop to an empty room.

Mermoose · 01/10/2025 15:44

Hopefully a few articulate GC women will attend

Yes but given how completely toxic the Irish media has made this, I can't imagine standing up and saying what I'd like to say.

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Thingybob · 01/10/2025 15:24

Admission is free, no booking is necessary

Hopefully a few articulate GC women will attend

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