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Consultation on future access to the Hampstead Heath Bathing Ponds - Closes 25 November 2025

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IwantToRetire · 30/09/2025 18:57

The City of London Corporation has launched a public consultation to help inform future access arrangements at Hampstead Heath’s Bathing Ponds.

The consultation invites feedback from pond users, the local community, and stakeholders on how the Kenwood Ladies’, and Highgate Men’s ponds should operate in the future.

The consultation is open until 12:00 on Tuesday 25 November 2025.

https://hampstead-heath-bathing-ponds.commonplace.is/

Opened today and I found out via an Irish newspaper!

I know there is an existing thread about legal challenge but thought it good to have the news of the consultation being open as a thread title.

Future access to the Hampstead Heath Bathing Ponds

Inviting feedback from pond users, the local community, and stakeholders on how the Kenwood Ladies’, and Highgate Men’s ponds should operate in the future.

https://hampstead-heath-bathing-ponds.commonplace.is

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LittleBitofBread · 14/11/2025 17:37

Excellent letter. I particularly like that he makes the point that no one is saying trans people don't exist; that's probably for me the most irksome point of argument in this whole conversation.

moto748e · 13/11/2025 18:02

Very good to hear from a London Labour pol.

Notanorthener · 13/11/2025 17:39

This is an excellent letter from Richard Cotton in the Camden New Journal he tweeted today (sorry I don’t have the technical skills to post a photo). He is a well liked and well regarded Labour councillor so interesting to see him make a stand - at last. Camden obv don’t have jurisdiction over the ponds but they’re within the borough and he will have/should have Keir Starmer’s ear as the local MP.

https://x.com/richardc1213/status/1988946674761527744?s=46

Richard Cotton (@RichardC1213) on X

My letter in today's Camden New Journal. I have always supported the sex-based rights of women and LGB people as well as the right of trans people to live their best lives.

https://x.com/richardc1213/status/1988946674761527744?s=46

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DrBlackbird · 09/11/2025 18:02

Davros · 09/11/2025 11:32

I am happy to report that the local paper (Camden New Journal) has printed two good letters in response to the large item printed last week (photo above). There is also a letter from a local councillor supporting trans residents but no mention of women 🤷‍♀️

That first letter is excellent. Measured, clear. Setting out what’s at risk for women.

Davros · 09/11/2025 11:32

I am happy to report that the local paper (Camden New Journal) has printed two good letters in response to the large item printed last week (photo above). There is also a letter from a local councillor supporting trans residents but no mention of women 🤷‍♀️

Consultation on future access to the Hampstead Heath Bathing Ponds - Closes 25 November 2025
Consultation on future access to the Hampstead Heath Bathing Ponds - Closes 25 November 2025
SqueakyDinosaur · 01/11/2025 12:19

"Imagine bringing in a law which doesn't affect anyone else. It just targets 8,500 of us" (men with GRCs)

Because OBVIOUSLY the fact that it affects every woman's right to single sex spaces doesn't matter, because they are evidently sub-human.

Davros · 31/10/2025 14:32

I feel like I need to respond but I’m addled right now

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/10/2025 14:32

He doesn’t have a clue what the Supreme Court case was about.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/10/2025 14:30

the Letter: me me me me me me

Davros · 31/10/2025 14:18

This is the latest from our local paper. A tiny letter encouraging people to respond to the consultation, without stating an opinion, and a HUGE article by a sad man bemoaning the removal of his rights. I can’t formulate any response, which is unlikely to be printed anyway, as I am very upset and annoyed. So much incorrect information and no balance at all

Consultation on future access to the Hampstead Heath Bathing Ponds - Closes 25 November 2025
Consultation on future access to the Hampstead Heath Bathing Ponds - Closes 25 November 2025
Consultation on future access to the Hampstead Heath Bathing Ponds - Closes 25 November 2025
Itmakesme · 21/10/2025 04:25

Thanks for the heads up. Let’s see what the update is today.

IwantToRetire · 21/10/2025 01:38

WeMeetInFairIthilien · 20/10/2025 20:59

Erm.
Isn't the 21st of October tomorrow?

Yes it was when they posted their update.

I just assumed they wanted to get this step forward into the public domain.

And it says 21st or soon after.

So need to keep checking back on their web site. Not sure that the mainstream media is following this that closely.

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WeMeetInFairIthilien · 20/10/2025 20:59

Erm.
Isn't the 21st of October tomorrow?

IwantToRetire · 20/10/2025 20:55

Legal update: anonymity and urgency granted on our Hampstead ponds case

We’ve had an important step in our legal challenge over the Hampstead Heath swimming ponds.

The High Court issued an order granting anonymity to one of our witnesses who will be referred to as TBS. This means that her name and personal details will be protected throughout the proceedings. The court agreed there were compelling reasons for this in her specific case.

The next stage must be decided promptly

While the court decided not to fast-track the case, it recognised that it raises important questions following the For Women Scotland judgment. The judge ordered that the next stage — deciding whether the case can go to a full hearing — must happen promptly, and more quickly than usual, with the answer expected by 21st October 2025, or as soon as possible after that.

This ensures that the case keeps moving and doesn’t get bogged down in delays.

https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/legal-update-on-our-hampstead-ponds-case/

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SqueakyDinosaur · 07/10/2025 22:27

Ealing is very nice (I live here), and there's a Magic (= London Overground) train that whisks you straight to Hampstead Heath!

PersonIrresponsible · 07/10/2025 18:24

Completed because apparently I have moved to Ealing.

Tatemoderndrawyourown · 07/10/2025 18:08

I also voted. I want the ladies pond for ladies who are female.
i also don’t want the ‘Tuesday from 6 to 8 open to all who feel ladies’ because who is going to police that.

IwantToRetire · 07/10/2025 17:34

Archived up to this point https://archive.is/uUkx0

ie from page 1 to this point.

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SqueakyDinosaur · 07/10/2025 17:32

Page 1 archived here: https://archive.is/YJ4te

There are only 18 posts on page 2, so maybe we should wait till it fills up a bit more.

If you go to archive dot is and post the URL into the red box at the top, then confirm, it will produce this sort of thing.

IwantToRetire · 07/10/2025 17:29

FortheloveofPetethePlumber · 07/10/2025 17:18

Personally I have no idea, but I am sure there are plenty here clever enough to do so.

It seems that some forums do offer archiving but cant find this option on MN.

So if no archive option AI says you have to copy and paste into a word document or something.

There is an option in settings on MN to have all posts on a thread as one long continuous page.

Or you have to buy specialist software.

To archive a forum thread, look for an "Archive" option or a "Move to Archive" dropdown within the forum's user interface, often found at the top or within the thread's menu, which then moves the discussion to a designated archive forum or section. If your forum platform doesn't offer a built-in feature, you may need to manually save the thread by copying its content into a text document or using a web archiving tool like Singlefile or the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine to create a local copy or web snapshot of the page.

Might look into wayback machine later today!

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FortheloveofPetethePlumber · 07/10/2025 17:18

Personally I have no idea, but I am sure there are plenty here clever enough to do so.

IwantToRetire · 07/10/2025 17:12

How do you archive a whole thread?

Confused
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LittleBitofBread · 07/10/2025 15:45

FortheloveofPetethePlumber · 07/10/2025 14:51

May be worth archiving this thread as it is proof of women having filled out the consultation clear in their wish and need for single sex spaces. Just in case it emerges that the results of the consultation were (again) that all women were delighted to swim with men, and no one minded at all.

Good idea!

FortheloveofPetethePlumber · 07/10/2025 14:51

May be worth archiving this thread as it is proof of women having filled out the consultation clear in their wish and need for single sex spaces. Just in case it emerges that the results of the consultation were (again) that all women were delighted to swim with men, and no one minded at all.

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