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Rightsraptor · 01/10/2025 08:09

I love your draft statement from the SNP, @BaseDrops - I'm snorting coffee here

Rightsraptor · 01/10/2025 08:08

I am a bit concerned that there could be a legal case against the EHRC because, unless I've misunderstood (quite possible), their first guidance did get the law wrong to some extent. This would have swayed policy decisions, I imagine.

Whatever, the first port of call for money should be those organisations who were pushing this dangerous ideology with tax payers' money on both sides of the border.

RealFeminist · 01/10/2025 07:29

BaseDrops · 30/09/2025 23:38

Jeebus.

Bit we wur telt that the stunnin’ brave sparkly trans bairns wid be sad if we didn’t build schools to suit them. We thocht that naybdy wid be so mean as to upset a trans bairn, and if they did we wid jist hud up photies of glittery smiley trans bairns and aubdy wid go ahh right enough. Canny believe that nasty wimmin have put the kybosh on it.

Draft statement from SNP in response to the costs to make school buildings legally compliant.

QUITE RIGHT HEN
WE CANNAE BE SPENDIN AW THIS ON WUMMEN WE NEED THE CASH FIR OOR QUANGAROES

OldCrone · 01/10/2025 03:54

This bit doesn't make sense.

Trans pupils will not be forced to use lavatories that match their biological sex, meaning alternatives should be provided.

Why do they need alternatives? Children who identify as "trans" cannot legally have medical treatment to make their bodies look like the opposite sex, so there's no ambiguity about their sex, so why can't they just use the toilets for their sex?

NumberTheory · 01/10/2025 01:11

The Scottish government’s budget is over £60 Billion isn’t it? And didn’t the whole ferry fiasco cost nearly half a billion?

But £90 million to ensure they are compliant with equality laws they’ve been trying to skirt for a decade is something they just can’t manage?

They sound like big babies. And some of their moves were clearly illegal and failed their constituents before the SC ruling made clear what should be done.

I do wonder though, the extent to which central government needs to find the money to help councils (and maybe businesses) adjust. It wasn’t just Stonewall that pushed illegal practice. The EHRC pumped out disinformation on how businesses and service providers should treat trans folk for years.

RedToothBrush · 01/10/2025 00:04

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 30/09/2025 20:49

In the SNP's eyes, everything is Westminster's fault. Seen through that prism, everything else makes sense.

I misread this post as.

"In the SNP's eyes, everything is Westminster's fault. seen through the pram, everything else makes sense".

I'm not sure I lost the meaning.

BaseDrops · 30/09/2025 23:38

Jeebus.

Bit we wur telt that the stunnin’ brave sparkly trans bairns wid be sad if we didn’t build schools to suit them. We thocht that naybdy wid be so mean as to upset a trans bairn, and if they did we wid jist hud up photies of glittery smiley trans bairns and aubdy wid go ahh right enough. Canny believe that nasty wimmin have put the kybosh on it.

Draft statement from SNP in response to the costs to make school buildings legally compliant.

Pleasantsort · 30/09/2025 21:19

Aye, it the Englishes' fault so it is, so they kin pay fir it. Fur Wummin Scotland goat their heid filled fae they English Wummin JK Rowland and Maya and Posie Perker. So you kin aw pay fur it as well.

RedNine · 30/09/2025 21:08

There.we.are.then.

LlynTegid · 30/09/2025 20:52

Another reason why the best argument against Scottish independence is the SNP.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 30/09/2025 20:49

In the SNP's eyes, everything is Westminster's fault. Seen through that prism, everything else makes sense.

ThatZanyFatball · 30/09/2025 20:46

I'm in the US and I really don't understand. If all the existing facilities had been changed to gender neutral then why were they fighting so hard for men to have access to women's bathrooms? According to SNP - all of the women's bathrooms were removed in favor of gender neutral??? Soooo, trans women weren't using women's bathrooms then - and that's how they wanted it?? Or were the walls between the men's and women's bathrooms broken down to create one massive bathroom? If there are still 2 bathrooms in public facilities, isn't just a matter of signage?

Jeez it's almost as nothing that comes out of this movement makes any sense at all and the whole thing is just something out of the mind of Lewis Carroll.

Davros · 30/09/2025 20:33

RealFeminist · 30/09/2025 20:07

RUDE.

BUT FUNNY

SinnerBoy · 30/09/2025 20:30

So, essentially its:

"Boo hoo! We spent money deliberately building things with non compliant toilets and now we want someone else to pay to make them legal. No FAAAIIIRRRR!"

Sorry for you, rational Scots.

Uggbootsforever · 30/09/2025 20:25

RealFeminist · 30/09/2025 20:07

RUDE.

Apologies I meant the SNP, not Scottish people, I’m sorry if it read that way 😵‍💫 it’s very late (for me)

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 30/09/2025 20:24

Apollo441 · 30/09/2025 18:26

This is talking about converting toilets and changing rooms to gender neutral in the light of the Supreme Court ruling (something I suspect nobody wants). It won't cost them a penny if they revert to Male and Female toilets will it?

I believe in some cases new schools have been built with entirely mixed sex toilets - rectifying things like that may not be as simple as just changing signage

Augarden · 30/09/2025 20:15

Honestly thank god we never became independent (and I voted Yes at the time). I bet if we were independent, Isla Bryson would still be in a women's prison.

GCAcademic · 30/09/2025 20:12

The individuals that pushed this insanity and illegality should be held personally liable.

ExpertInAbsolutelyZero · 30/09/2025 20:11

They are utterly shameless and I hope the Scots finally see them for what they are and boot them into the long grass at the next elections.

RealFeminist · 30/09/2025 20:07

Uggbootsforever · 30/09/2025 20:03

God forbid the Scots pay for anything themselves

RUDE.

WandaSiri · 30/09/2025 20:04

It didn't cost £90 million to change the signs and it won't cost £90 million to change them back and add a few unisex toilets which the special men won't use anyway.
Just a novel form of foot-dragging.

Uggbootsforever · 30/09/2025 20:03

God forbid the Scots pay for anything themselves

NotInMyyName · 30/09/2025 20:02

Apollo441 · 30/09/2025 18:26

This is talking about converting toilets and changing rooms to gender neutral in the light of the Supreme Court ruling (something I suspect nobody wants). It won't cost them a penny if they revert to Male and Female toilets will it?

^ This ! ^
Or get Stonewall to cough up, given their role in directing change which was neither subject to public consultation or even needed.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/09/2025 19:33

So the devolved government voted in by the Scots encouraged illegality and now wants to escape the financial responsibility for putting it right?

tbh the rest of the U.K. will be facing bills anyway to sort out hospitals, schools, council run facilities etc.

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