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WhoopsINameChangedAgain · 28/09/2025 09:45

On Saturday 27 September 2025, in a leafy suburb of Newcastle upon Tyne, one lone woman protested the recent decision to change the leisure centre single sex changing rooms into one mixed sex area with no changes to the changing cubicles.

Despite the peacefulness of the protest, and considerable positive engagement from service users who stopped to chat to her, the staff called the police.

Thankfully the officer was rightly not concerned and happy for her to continue her peaceful protest.

https://x.com/wrn_neandnyorks/status/1972197438363713594?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Pics for those not on twitter; police officer can be seen through doorway behind her.

Leisure centre call police on one woman with a hand sewn #redflag banner
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TheignT · 29/09/2025 20:23

I swim at a pool with a changing village that feels safe. It has a low wall separating it from the pool, the lifeguards are seated next to the wall so you always have staff who can hear what is going on in the changing area, nothing other than people getting changed. It always seems to work well.

MrsM1ggins · 29/09/2025 20:17

MrsM1ggins · 29/09/2025 19:50

Should have given a description and not just the URL. This is the Women's Rights Network's short video cataloguing some of the sexual offending in mixed sex changing villages

hholiday · 29/09/2025 20:15

‘He was also made subject to a Sexual Offences Prevention Order for five years, banning him from owning recording devices or being in a public place unsupervised where females are undressing.…’

this was the Hexham offender’s PUNISHMENT?! All men, with the exception of little boys with their mums, should be banned from public places where females are undressing. Just what exactly is so difficult about this?!

thank you OP for your stance - my little nieces live in gosforth and i dread to think.

MrsM1ggins · 29/09/2025 19:50
SinnerBoy · 29/09/2025 19:40

Crikey, all those individual crimes and none of the bastards got jail. It's very worrying, it's absolutely no deterrent at all. My 12 year old uses Hadrian Road, Waves and Tynemouth pool.

moto748e · 29/09/2025 18:35

and that's just the tip of the iceberg

In just one small part of the UK!

oviraptor21 · 29/09/2025 18:17

So many incidents - and that's just the tip of the iceberg - and still nothing is done. Truly disgusting how unimportant the privacy and dignity of women and girls is.

WhoopsINameChangedAgain · 29/09/2025 18:11

blaydon

http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-east-news/corbridge-man-guilty-voyeurism-after-7216723

“The court was also told how Philip visited Blaydon swimming pool and took footage under the doors of changing cubicles. Images were discovered of women drying themselves and of a young girl, although the latter footage was said to be “not indecent.””

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WhoopsINameChangedAgain · 29/09/2025 18:04

MrsM1ggins · 29/09/2025 17:20

Told him about this thread and the one on X.

Great!

He may like to know that I don’t swim there any more since this change. I go to Jesmond. Part of it is due to having to book a time slot but the tipping point was the changing rooms.

I’d be interested to know if this is also why they changed it being open to the public during children’s swimming lessons; it used to be and I’d swim at the same time as my eldest’s lesson.

However, if there have been incidents of certain males timing their swims at the same time it would be a reason to. I’ve had experience of this as a teacher at other pools when taking school children swimming and it was well known about by staff, just no actual offence evidence.

(I only know about the Saturday sessions)

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Bluebootsgreenboots · 29/09/2025 17:29

@MrsM1ggins
Thank you for doing this.
I hate those changing villages. There was one at a pool near me when I was a teenager. There used to be holes in the partitions where men had drilled in with keys (it was this crappy fake metal material). The holes were stuffed with gum or toilet paper, but as you changed the toilet paper would fall on to the benches and floor as the men on the other side pushed it through to enable them to watch you change.
When my friend and I wised up to this we would change together - one getting changed under then towel, the other keeping watch for the perverts. You would see their eyes, and when they got really desperate they just stuck their heads under the partition. This was a regular occurrence. When we mentioned it to pool staff they half heartedly looked for the men (who of course had gone) and shrugged it off.

This was decades ago, so when it was over it was over. Now those men would have cameras, can re watch the girls getting changed, and distribute the images and film to thousands on the internet. If a girl now suspects that someone has watched her, she knows that video could have been seen online by any man she deals with - at work, at the pub. It needs to be taken seriously.

The pool closed shortly after this and had a complete refit. Still has changing villages (mixed), you can't make holes in the partitions, but you can stick a camera underneath.

IamEarthymama · 29/09/2025 17:23

What a woman MrsM1ggins is!
Thank you so much xx💖

MrsM1ggins · 29/09/2025 17:20

Told him about this thread and the one on X.

MrsM1ggins · 29/09/2025 17:20

We've agreed that he will run our conversation and our objections up the chain and we will have a follow up meeting.

WhoopsINameChangedAgain · 29/09/2025 17:10

You are a total hero @MrsM1ggins!

what was his response face like?

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MrsM1ggins · 29/09/2025 16:08

Just had a sit down with the leisure centre manager. Was good of him to make the time. 🙂

I talked him through the objections, told him about Morgan/Dennis and also pointed out that the toilets are shocking. He now knows whst a menstrual cup is because I explained to him how a woman using the toilet would need to leave the cubicle and wash the bloody cup in the sink in front of the other patrons before returning to the cubicle to reinsert it.

MrsM1ggins · 28/09/2025 18:51

dontcomeatme · 28/09/2025 18:13

Are all changing rooms for swimming not mixed sex? I think every leisure centre or gym with a pool I've been to around here has just one big changing area with cubicles, I never really thought about it. Same location too. Haven point, all the everyone active leisure centres, the aquatic, waves x

That's the way they're all going thanks to Swim England and Sport England who suggest it in their design guidance. I FOId Sport England and they confirmed that they haven't risk assessed this guidance, but in their view it's not 'best practice' it's just a suggestion and nothing to do with them if it results in voyeurism, sexual assault etc.

Sprogonthetyne · 28/09/2025 18:51

dontcomeatme · 28/09/2025 18:13

Are all changing rooms for swimming not mixed sex? I think every leisure centre or gym with a pool I've been to around here has just one big changing area with cubicles, I never really thought about it. Same location too. Haven point, all the everyone active leisure centres, the aquatic, waves x

Most that are more recently built are planned as mixed, so they have cubicles that offer greater privacy then what you would find in a changing room that was designed and built to be single sex. Mix sex 'changing villages' also have separate toilet areas for each sex attached, whereas it sounds like this one just has one set of toilets, because it was only designed to be used by one sex.

WhoopsINameChangedAgain · 28/09/2025 18:20

Jesmond pool, just up the road, is still single sex

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dontcomeatme · 28/09/2025 18:13

Are all changing rooms for swimming not mixed sex? I think every leisure centre or gym with a pool I've been to around here has just one big changing area with cubicles, I never really thought about it. Same location too. Haven point, all the everyone active leisure centres, the aquatic, waves x

WhoopsINameChangedAgain · 28/09/2025 18:04

I’ve been going for years and latterly weekly swimming lessons for my son.

from memory they just gave the toilets in the women’s floor to ceiling height doors. The sinks are outside; i can’t remember if the one that is wider for wheel chair access has a sink in it or not. I think not as there’s a low sink next to the other sinks.

all the changing cubicles are the same as they were. Gaps beneath doors

They took out the left hand side of lockers, adding in about 4 new changing cubicles. Same as others, gap beneath the door and open top.

a few laminated signs up saying mobile phones are banned in the changing rooms. Never seen staff enforce that.

my son recently informed me he could see me sitting on the loo “your reflection on the wall (Perspex) through the crack at the side” Confused

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Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 28/09/2025 17:47

@MrsM1ggins thank you for doing this!

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