Richard Dawkin's new book warns against denial of scientific truth by ‘astonishingly vicious’ trans activists and other threats on science

She's in a care home for the elderly but was giving interviews up to a couple of years ago. And anyway it doesn't matter that she's old. It's simply a fact and has no bearing on her life's work. Calling her "senile Greer" is an irrelevant swipe.

Me too.

It is clearly her opinion and one that may or man not be accurate, or may be in part.

It certainly gives a refreshing perspective.

Progress which is rapidly going into reverse if YouGov opinion polls on this subject over the past few years are anything to go by. Increasingly arrogant overreach by transactivists has shifted public acceptance very markedly in a negative direction and there's no indication the downward slide will be easily reversed or even stopped.

Gosh.... look at this....

In 2022, Germaine Greer had a fall and was hospitalised. She couldn't appear in person at a Canberra Writer's event. An event that she would not have been invited to speak at if she was cognitively impaired. And apparently, she had fucking disappeared from public life too....

https://whisperinggums.com/tag/germaine-greer/

Any sign of that proof of a dementia diagnosis?

Should I do Howsa's usual and say "Still waiting.... " with emojis and all. That is the usual tactic, isn't it? The one that crossed over to bullying after so many repeats?

Fucking hell. The hate for women by some people really becomes clearer and clearer each day. And very multi-faceted.

Are you suggesting cruelty is unhelpful now? Or this only applies when convenient? According to Greer offence is irrelevant.

Caitlyn Jenner admitted he came out as trans after getting caught on camera stealing his teenage daughters’ underwear.

Deluded means believing something that is not true. So, you are deluded about Greer's medical status, and trans people are deluded if they genuinely believe they can change sex.

I'm so glad you posted this.

I just love the no-nonsense, cut-to-the-chase, common sense way she speaks.

It's an icy cold breath of fresh air that instantly turns word salad mouldy.

Remember up until she as back here, she had been living around Springbook National Park, a rainforest in Queensland, that she wrote a book about and was doing plenty of interviews about in 2014 and thereabouts.

Is this an example of the empathy that you claim to have?

Your redefinition of sex doesn't hold across all sexually reproducing species. For example, not all species have a chromosomal sex-determination system.

Consider: when a biologist discovers a new species where an initial analysis shows it reproduces sexually and has the female and male halves of the reproductive system embodied in distinct sets of individuals (that is, gonochorism) - how does she then figure out which are the females and which are the males?

And you are the one who dismissed Greer's opinions on the basis that
'She was getting on at that stage & admitted to a nursing home for dementia not long after.'
and in another post
'According to a senile Greer? Yes.'
Now that's offensive.

As offensive as calling trans people deluded? I guess she might understand how they feel now.

Just a reminder. Although, I am sure most people posting on this board remember reading this.

Even in 1996, Germaine was very clear that no male people should be accessing female single sex provisions.

http://archive.today/VrUtd

"In 1996, she was invited to take up a fellowship at Newnham, one of Cambridge's three all-women colleges. Germaine Greer, who was then a fellow of the college, subsequently argued that since Padman was legally a man, her appointment contravened college statutes."

Thanks for that - I can't get onto the full show but I did find this clip on YouTube

It's just old-fashioned ad hominem. Best ignored.

Of course he doesn’t, he has proof of nothing except his own nastiness.

Whereas TRA’s ARE completely incoherent 24/7.

I’m not sure what you think this proves other than Greer’s prescience and bravery

Addressing claims that she had been hurtful towards transgender women, Greer added: “People are being hurtful to me all the time. Try being an old woman. For goodness sake, people get hurt all the time. I’m not about to walk on eggshells.”

admirably brief and to the point I’d say

Again, she had had a fall and felt she couldn't live independently.

Is she still in a care home, I read somewhere she was living with her brother? Does it even fucking matter.

Have you got proof that she has a dementia diagnosis?

These are the poster people for The Right Side Of History.

Ageism, sexism, misogyny, homophobia - quite the collection of repellent behaviours isn't it?

Some prolific posters are here as effulgent Righteous Warriors for The Greater Goodness of Bundled Good Things. Any amount of obfuscatory, twisting, misrepresenting, smearing, mendacious, copied-and-pasted word salad is justifiable because it is Pious Fraud in aid of said Greater Goodness. Also, it means that said posters gets to polish their "haloes" possibly while typing one-handed.

your snide, undermining little insinuations are truly repellent

Germaine Greer was speaking about the lie that men are women when they say they are way back in 1989.

She was living in her Essex house and wonderful garden until 2018. I believe she returned to Australia and has gone into some sort of supported living? Not surpising given her age.

Seeing a rabid transactivist attempting to slur a legendary feminist writer is no surprise. This who post with zero integrity and credibility can only resort to smears and slurs - they've nothing else to offer.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4430375-germaine-greer-in-1989-sex-change-is-a-lie

Thank you for your reply Howseitgo.
In terms of public policy, all that's necessary is determining whether there's potential for harm from male bodied people.
Well that has been well and truly proved, statistics on violent crime against women by male bodied people, ones who ID as women and ones who do not,
is clear proof of that.

So you have provided a rationale for female bodied people to have laws and policies and regulations to ensure their safety from the potential harm you refer to from 'male bodied people'.

That is the rationale for public policy that requires certain facilities should be single-sex, for instance rape crisis centres, or that equal representation on public boards should be defined by biological sex, or as you put it how people are 'bodied'.

So far, you and the UK Supreme Court are in total agreement

Not sure why people consider elderly people who suffer cognitive decline offensive but there you go.
Nobody said that 'elderly people who suffer cognitive decline' are 'offensive', in fact later today I am going to sit with a very dear family friend who has dementia, who no longer recognises me, but who is always delighted to see me.
Where are you getting 'offensive' from anything anybody has said about dementia?

And you are the one who dismissed Greer's opinions on the basis that
'She was getting on at that stage & admitted to a nursing home for dementia not long after.'
and in another post
'According to a senile Greer? Yes.'

Now that's offensive.