British Army colonel claims trans personnel unlikely to be able to serve beyond 2026

If I were in the forces I would want colleagues to be engaged in the action concerned not thinking about their gender representation. I don't imagine women serving are constantly thinking "I'm a woman" when they're supposed to be thinking about their fellows in combat, trusting them and being trusted in turn. Somebody who takes all this time thinking about being stunningly brave in another context, I just wouldn't trust to have my back. But I'm a 79 year old female pacifist so what do I know?

To these misogynists breasts = female. He's got surgical or wrong sex hormone induced lumps on his chest and thereby lies his claim to be a woman. He might also get off on it.

I'm reminded of a picture of a bloke taking part in one of the recent moobs out protests. On the usual tatty bit of cardboard he'd written 'man!?'. Presumably we were to read the sign, look at this delicate, shrinking flower and think 'of course not!'. I suspect while gently wiping away a tear with a snowy white hankerchief at the bravery displayed, the vulnerability. Unfortunately, I thought 'Well, yes. An actual dictionary definition of one too'. I might have wiped away a tear though, possibly several 😂

I think the British Army should have bigger things to worry about than the privileges this bloke wants to claim. Like the actual physical safety of its female soldiers

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In not caring about his female comrades, in prioritising his selfish wants, this bloke is like too many others in the army.

It's the next best thing to flashing their moobs?

What is it with these men and their bras?

I’ve just listened to the speech. He’s got a very deep voice.

When I saw the thread title I thought ‘that sounds good’.

I struggle to see a scenario where the demands and requirements of a trans person would be compatible with life in the forces.

Some men claim they are women for fetishistic reasons and some have developed a serious mental health issue (with various root causes) which causes them to disassociate from their sexed body and wish to castrate themselves and make other serious but cosmetic adjustments.

Neither of those is conducive to being a successful team player in the forces.

Intention to shock. Very much not woman-like, particularly a woman who's made it in a male-dominated career. And not the first to use exposure to an audience as part of self expression either.

He took his clothes off to display his bra, as proof of the misogyny that he is appropriating (along with his ‘womanhood’).

So, this really could be something this Colonel has taken and extrapolated out from the Supreme Court ruling?

It will certainly be interesting to follow.

Nope, I'll join you.

Things like integrity, honesty, morality, boundaries and a grip are necessary for a functional society, and 'fashion' shouldn't come into it. Progress is supposed to be better and building further, improving things and not making them worse. But this is the whole 'queer' movement for you: smash everything. Not with a plan in mind, just like a tired toddler pushing every button and overturning everything without a brain in gear or capacity for further thought.

Yes, sorry, message board for forces and ex forces.

I went and had a look but there wasn't all that much on their 'not about trans' thread.

I'll join you in being old-fashioned:
'Clothes maketh the man'
[originally Erasmus, acc to Google]
or in this case, the lack of them😧

I just don't think people in respected social roles should be taking their clothes off in public like this. Whether you're a colonel, vicar, professor, KC or whatever. It's just unseemly. Or is that too old-fashioned an attitude nowadays?

I think the person giving the speech in their underwear is ridiculous
I also think that spaces in the army should be segregated by sex not gender. If people don't like that/can't cope then they don't need to be in the army.

I am a bit queasy about the framing of all trans people as being untrustworthy because they are "lying". That's because it feels more like a genuinely held belief for some. Catholics aren't untrustworthy because they are lying about wine turning into blood. Hindus aren't lying about reincarnation. The really central point to me is that you can't expect other people to go along with your beliefs (beyond reasonable adjustments). So someone who is trans can't demand other people in the army act as if they believe the same things the trans person does. But I don't like labelling everyone who identified as trans as inherently untrustworthy.
As far as mental health goes, I believe if someone was capable of following the rules above (believe what you want, don't expect other people to) they are likely on the more stable end of the spectrum. That alone should weed out the crazies.

I think that’s the point!

ARmy Rumour SErvice.

Who are ARRSE and why do they not realise that their acronym is snorty-funny?

Hmm. Keen to see what ARRSE have to say about this. They are generally fairly sensible.

The thought that there are men like him in the Armed Forces is absolutely terrifying.

I know!

The first thing I thought when I saw the picture was ‘Wow, he is absolutely stacked’.

This is true.

There seems to be something not quite connecting here. We have posters coming on telling people they are wrong, while then admitting that there are still some single sex provisions.

He took off his clothes because that’s what he gets off on, he’s clearly an exhibitionist. We shouldn’t have mentally ill people serving in our armed forces.

Military personnel also gave Civil Service and contractor colleagues who shouldn’t be overlooked. It’s not just the accommodation for those who live in, but there are toilets and often showers in the office accommodations and these are single sex and need to remain that way.

Has anyone read anything about what this person is referring to at all?

Did I hear right that the speech in the video referred to April this year and how trans people were not consulted? Would that be a reference to the Supreme Court clarifying the EA2010? Is there anything else that has sparked this declaration ?

Quite