British Army colonel claims trans personnel unlikely to be able to serve beyond 2026

Show the colonel some respect by recognising that men are simply better at womaning than we are. Stripping to our underwear in front of an audience would give us the level of credibility that he obviously enjoys.

Ok, point taken! 😀

prior to joining up i was in Germany as a dependent and i got a job working at the office dealing with married quarters and family welfare. These offices were often run by ex-officers, and were always (as is correct) referred to as Rank (usually at least Major) plus surname.

Anyway i answered bosses phone to have this Major X shouting at me that my boss, Major Y, hadn't answered his phone, hadn't replied to some memos and where the hell was he blah blah. So i took Major X's name and number and left note for boss.

Next morning i got in and my boss said "Major X was really angry" and when i said "gosh yes, he gave me a real roasting" my boss laughed and said "yes lots of people make that mistake. Major X is a woman". And when i finally met her, she was one of those Tweed-Suited women in sensible shoes, and was perfectly womanly in everything apart from her voice. She apologised to me and told me that she used her voice to her advantage on the phone "never let anyone know you are a woman until the last minute, they take you more seriously that way". And i have used that ever since.

No attempt at changing his voice. Makes an excuse to show off his breast enhancements. Very clear that he is only interested in how his body looks and not interested in changing his behaviour. Maintains his voice to maintain his authority.

have you ever met a squaddie?

surprise!

so now the ACC is a thing of the past - who does catering on deployment/exercise?

You'd hope that given the global security threats our military are only focused on being an efficient, effective military presence.

Unfortunately as the unhinged man in the bra demonstrated, there are a lot of military men happy to be sidetracked by fetishes - some at the very top of the military and responsible for making this such a focus.

have now read article: can i just say that easy for a man to be a col, not so easy (but easier now than i my day) for a woman. And that alongside my lesbian friends, we had one disappeared from basic training for having a tattoo - that was under her knickers, so would never ever be seen unless she were to be fully naked. It was the size of my thumbnail. So MEH.

Let alone what would happen if we stood up in front of 450 people in a bra.

have only read the OP but want to give some thoughts before i go back and read the article/thread.

I am ex military. I was in the military from the mid 80s into the 90s. A lot of my friends were treated abominably as Lesbians and only now are receiving their official apologies and reparations. I am happy for them at the same time as i am still incandescent with rage about how they were treated. Not least because there was ALWAYS a "joke" about the WRAC (as it was) being full of lesbians. And any time we turned down some fat obnoxious drunk squaddie's advances we were dismissed as "lezzers". OK to joke about. But not OK to serve alongside?

We had big fat squaddies alongside us - and as long as they passed the basic fitness, trade training and other military training they were relatively ok to work with. Tose qualifications to work included up-to-date vaccinations and dental work. As soon as there was any ongoing medical treatment they were no longer classed as FE (Forward Everywhere - as in: ready to deploy at the drop of a hat) and became a liability as they deprived us of one warm body that could be deployed.

Aside of issues of single sex spaces (I was put on extras more than once for being caught in the male accommodation - having a conjugal visit with the person i was married to while waiting for a married quarter) which i Have Thoughts on, i would be ok working alongside anyone who was competent and fit the criteria. If trans people are having to dilate, or take drugs (supplies have to be ensured) or anything else - then they are not FE and shouldn't be deployed. IN some cases a lengthly period of not being FE should lead to dismissal from service. We can't compromise on security.

*audio. No idea why my autocarrot said audiobook

If you don’t look at the video and just listen to the audiobook his voice is not even vaguely feminine. I know there are women with deep voices, but not like this.

My thoughts are that anyone of any sex, sexual orientation or identity, who gives a speech dressed like that is not to be taken seriously.

TiM does strip to cause scandal as they make false claims about sex segregated spaces.

First reply nails it.

Feeling v glad that my Colonel father (served in ww2) never had to see this!

Sorry have not RTT but there’s also the brave and fearless US Admiral Rachel Levine. He was one of the USA Today’s Women of the Year in 2021.

As ex military myself.. I am ashamed to see this man, who has suddenly decided to 'transition' near the end of his career, taking over an awards ceremony for his own political views. He was also entered into, as others were that are MALE, into the female awards categories. Sadly if one speaks out, one is punished! NB I hope he is right that the days of the T++ are numbered in the armed services. (Their need for ongoing medical treatment should make them ineligible for one..)

Hard agree. They are obviously trying to play it safe and follow the pack.

The MOD should absolutely not be waiting for the EHRC guidance. They have plenty of their own legal staff that they could and should be consulting if they don’t understand the law.

When the EHRC guidance does land, I'm looking forward to finding out the next thing we're waiting for before law regarding women's rights is followed.

Godot possibly.

sad, not said...

From reading the article in the OP the MOD seems to be unable to say more than that they are waiting for the final guidance from the EHRC.

There has been so much conflicting information around I wonder if this Colonel really is about to retire and take up activism. Considering their choice of bra.

The conflict in information hasn’t been helped with posters declaring other posters are wrong about single sex provisions still being needed in the different services, while then admitting that there are indeed some single sex provisions needed. It would be great to have the questions answered in detail without the breezy ‘it doesn’t happen’ from posters who seem more keen to limit their answers to exclude those instances when there IS single sex provisions needed, than answering with openness and honesty.

I wonder if he's also said that he can't search female prisoners? Honestly, it was just a self pitying, self indulgent whine. If he wants to self exclude himself from his career, that's his own damned choice and it certainly isn't being forced upon him.

Quite.

It often occurs when listening to a transactivist share their perspective, that once transactivism has entered someone's life there isn't much room left for anyone or anything else.