Well, hello Emma Watson

She doesn't yet have an Oxford degree. Her degree is from Brown, we don't know what grade. She did get straight As at GCSE and A Level, but otoh Ivy League accepts legacy students,, why not a celeb? Besides, booksmart doesn't equal common sense, so many very smart people can also lose touch with reality.

She's not young, she's 35, and was 30 when this began.

Exactly, conquest is a gross word anyway and even if some women gritted their teeth consensually in exchange for a role, that ignores the many who were raped.

These are unsubstantiated rumours painting women in a bad light, when the man in question is actually a rapist.

To me it feels very slut shaming and victim blaming, with a side order of these women wouldn't achieve anything if a HW hadn't give them a leg up in exchange for a leg over.

I find this really distasteful.

When you say "conquests" do you actually mean "victim"? We know Harvey Weinstein was a rapist who preyed on women in the film industry.

Thank you @GallantKumquat for the correction, I don't know where I got the racism thing from then, apologies all.

@MusettasWaltz its not the money, its the fame and the oscars. I remember that picture but there were loads more where she was happily there with him. She apparently was named as one who courted him in exchange for movies. I think others were Jennifer Lawrence, Olivia Wilde, Blake Lively (who was his main sidepiece).

A franchise actor being hyped immediately after doesn't have to equal casting couch. Radcliffe was also hyped in plays & films for the immediate post-Potter years, doesn't mean Kevin Spacey or someone was fetting him roles.
Though I did incidentally read that Spacey pursued Radcliffe...hope he evaded that creep.

Not exactly equivalent given EW didn't get her career making franchise from Weinstein as Lawrence did. Are you just basing this on the picture or is there evidence?

There is a horrible photo of him grabbing her in public.

https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlyterrifying/comments/75qwua/harvey_weinstein_in_this_picture_with_emma_watson/

But does that mean anything actually happened? She was a millionaire, not like she needed money. Plus none of those films were Miramax or Weinstein Company (Little Women was post-MeToo, obvs other 3 weren't)

@MusettasWaltz you can usually identify them, they are so hungry for fame that they will do anything, and their success comes out of nowhere. JL then won the Oscar. EW was in a ton of movies out of nowhere too. You can google it but essentially its when she had the pixie cut hairdo.

What? Weinstein? Where'd you hear that?

I still don't think she was bad in them, but that is interesting info...disturbing too. Jennifer Lawrence is well known to be connected to him, and is another who I think performs well but was overhyped in relation to what she'd actually done

Yes, it's awkward but I do think Emma was too pretty for Hermione. Hermione does have an ugly duckling moment at the Yule Ball & she's certainly nice looking, plus her buck teeth are shortened in the middle of the series, but I don't think she was meant to have a model type look.

@MusettasWaltz Emma only got those roles quickly after rumours of her and Harvey Weinstein. She was apparently one of his conquests when she wanted to break hollywood then quickly fell out of his limelight.

Yes, he acted in the M Night Shyamalan series Servant for several seasons as 1 of the 4 leads, I'd like to watch that. It's horror so would definitely show another side and has been well reviewed. He was also in Shymalan's film Knock At The Cabin in 2023 too.

Haven't seen Radcliffe or Grint in anything else they've done since, but I didn't think Emma was bad in other stuff she'd done, (Bling Ring, Perks of Being a Wallflower, Noah, Little Women). She's not Saoirse Ronan, but she's not awful either.

Didn't think Grint was all that terrible either. I have seen Radcliffe at 10 in the BBC David Copperfield, and he was good there. Apparently Columbus was influenced by this and the recommendation of Maggie Smith (who was Aunt Betsy in it) to cast Radcliffe. I think I read in an interview that his nerves over the Potter hype made him worse in the early films, and I think that's probs true.

Incredible. I thought she was silly & had been guilted/emotionally blackmailed by TRAs (there's a very uncomfortable clip of her with Paris Lees) but I didn't realise that she'd was spitefully dissing her.

Grint's 'auntie' comment was fairly innocuous: "I don't necessarily agree with everything my auntie says, but she's still my auntie. It's a tricky one".

But, it has to be remembered what we're we're talking about: cancellation was an act of terror. Many lost their jobs, friends, acquaintances, and professional colleagues - even family members - over the issue. Nothing can really describe the sensation of having your life turned upside-down and the people who you once counted as as friends become part of an unrecognizable mob and the instruments of your downfall.

Rowling would have thought that her generosity, personal integrity and the strength of her professional relationships would have insulated her from that. Instead Watson, Radcliff, Grint and countless others turned against her at the drop of a hat and only thing that saved her was the brute force of her wealth and established fame. But as for the people around her, the majority could have been picked out of Lord of the Flies. It is an incalculable betrayal that goes far beyond any one given action or statement.

I wasn't sure if I remembered what he had said correctly, which is why I phrased it as a question.

I figured someone else would remember exactly what he said and correct me if I had remembered it wrong.

Edit to add that the reason I mentioned the racist bit was because I thought he had essentially said he felt affectionate towards her like you would an aunt, but thought her views on trans rights were akin to racism.

Again, I may be remembering this all wrong so please feel free to correct me if I have misremembered.

I tried to give the movie kids a bit of leeway and they did become marginally better as the films went on (despite Watson only being able to do over ennuciated know it all or angry, Grimes only being able to do gulping comedic shock or bad tempered, and Radcliffe only being able to do wide eyed shock or shouting)

But fuck, the first film is basically unwatchable because of the overdone stage schoolness of it all. Particularly bad standout scenes are the '....I'm....a....what?' line after the 'yer a wizard Harry' and the 'you've got dirt on your nose by the way' one. It's hard to believe that they, out of God knows how many kids auditioned, were the best.

Yes it is but I'm prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt.

Where are you getting the ‘racist’ bit from?

Does anyone ever bother with receipts?

or her previous views are less fashionable now and garner her fewer headpats

It’s really almost impossible to know which is the real truth innit?

When young, issues often appear black and white. People change their minds as they get older, their views soften and they are better able to see things from other viewpoints. That is what has happened with Emma Watson.

Wasn't it Rupert Grint who said JRK was a bit like a racist aunt though?

He was the best of the bunch tbf, pity they gave all the best lines to Emma’s character.