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Well, hello Emma Watson

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crumpet · 24/09/2025 22:11

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15130209/Harry-Potter-Emma-Watson-treasures-J-K-Rowling-trans-rights.html

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ThatCyanCat · 25/09/2025 14:10

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:06

why do you say women's rights are anti trans?

I don't say that. It's you who think the two are in opposition. Not me.

Then why do you complain when women have single sex spaces? What rights do you think trans people don't have?

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:10

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 14:06

Exactly! If trans rights don't conflict with womens rights, why do the MRAs/TRAs get so angry at the SC judgement clarifying the rights of the female sex - in law.

What people are upset about are the impacts on the safety , wellbeing, inclusion and dignity of trans people. Because some of us care about those as much as we care about those of (cis) women.

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 14:09

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:06

why do you say women's rights are anti trans?

I don't say that. It's you who think the two are in opposition. Not me.

Then you agree with the SC ruling then. Good.

Glad we agree. 🤗

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 14:08

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Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:06

ThatCyanCat · 25/09/2025 14:05

If trans rights aren't a threat to women's rights, why do you say women's rights are anti trans?

(Access to naked and vulnerable women and girls and getting your knob out among them isn't a man's human right, just so we're clear.)

why do you say women's rights are anti trans?

I don't say that. It's you who think the two are in opposition. Not me.

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 14:06

ThatCyanCat · 25/09/2025 14:05

If trans rights aren't a threat to women's rights, why do you say women's rights are anti trans?

(Access to naked and vulnerable women and girls and getting your knob out among them isn't a man's human right, just so we're clear.)

Exactly! If trans rights don't conflict with womens rights, why do the MRAs/TRAs get so angry at the SC judgement clarifying the rights of the female sex - in law.

ThePoshUns · 25/09/2025 14:05

Mollyollydolly · 25/09/2025 13:59

Translation: Shove your golden bridge up your arse.

Queen.

Well, hello Emma Watson
ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 14:05

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:03

Sterilising, chemically castrating and physically destroying children's bodies

nothing to do with the subject at hand. just the rantings and ravings of people who know nothing about the things on which they presume to speak.

Everything to do with the subject at hand, and we have the receipts of the damages done, and we, we - our side, are the ones getting Puberty Blockers stopped around the world. 😂 All your ranting and ravings are those of an ignorant and uneducated person and amount to nothing. Come back when you have any idea of what the issues are, as you are way out of your depth.

ThatCyanCat · 25/09/2025 14:05

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:01

im describing the actual disagreement which is about whether trans rights are a threat to women's rights, not whether women are human and exist and have rights.

If trans rights aren't a threat to women's rights, why do you say women's rights are anti trans?

(Access to naked and vulnerable women and girls and getting your knob out among them isn't a man's human right, just so we're clear.)

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:05

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 14:04

No, you are describing the Mens Rights version of it.

Your mob believes the female sex don't exist, that our rights aren't sex-based and that every single thing our foremother feminists (rest their souls) fought for was.... all for nothing.

The issue is whether the female sex exist and have sex-based rights away from the male sex. That, is the issue. No matter how maliciously and malignantly you attempt to reframe it to fit a hateful Mens Rights agenda.

No im describing the actual disagreement which is about whether trans rights are a threat to women's rights.

You think they are. I don't. That's the disagreement.

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 14:04

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:01

im describing the actual disagreement which is about whether trans rights are a threat to women's rights, not whether women are human and exist and have rights.

No, you are describing the Mens Rights version of it.

Your mob believes the female sex don't exist, that our rights aren't sex-based and that every single thing our foremother feminists (rest their souls) fought for was.... all for nothing.

The issue is whether the female sex exist and have sex-based rights away from the male sex. That, is the issue. No matter how maliciously and malignantly you attempt to reframe it to fit a hateful Mens Rights agenda.

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:03

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 14:01

Sterilising, chemically castrating and physically destroying children's bodies is not 'health' 'care'. It is child abuse. HTH

Sterilising, chemically castrating and physically destroying children's bodies

nothing to do with the subject at hand. just the rantings and ravings of people who know nothing about the things on which they presume to speak.

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:01

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:59

Read above, it even has a link to a clip.

No, that is how you want to frame it to suit your anti-women agenda.

The actual disagreement is whether the rights of a male in a dress should have more rights to the hard won single sex rights females have. THAT, is the issue.

im describing the actual disagreement which is about whether trans rights are a threat to women's rights, not whether women are human and exist and have rights.

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 14:01

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:57

Right. She won't forgive people who don't agree with her entirely warped and ignorant mischaracterising of healthcare for trans people.

Sterilising, chemically castrating and physically destroying children's bodies is not 'health' 'care'. It is child abuse. HTH

Mollyollydolly · 25/09/2025 13:59

Translation: Shove your golden bridge up your arse.

Well, hello Emma Watson
ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:59

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:56

what comment was that?

er no that's how you want to frame the disagreement.

the actual disagreement is whether supporting trans rights is a threat to women's rights.

Read above, it even has a link to a clip.

No, that is how you want to frame it to suit your anti-women agenda.

The actual disagreement is whether the rights of a male in a dress should have more rights to the hard won single sex rights females have. THAT, is the issue.

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:57

teawamutu · 25/09/2025 13:56

No, you're right - JKR has also been very clear that she won't forgive those who called for, enabled, facilitated or encouraged the medical abuse of confused children, be it via unthinking affirmation, drugs or surgical mutilation.

Thanks for reminding us. The full picture is important.

Right. She won't forgive people who don't agree with her entirely warped and ignorant mischaracterising of healthcare for trans people.

teawamutu · 25/09/2025 13:56

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:49

Deliberately cruel how?

disagreeing with her that females are human, exist, and deserve our feminist hard won sex-based rights

yeh that's not the disagreement lol.

No, you're right - JKR has also been very clear that she won't forgive those who called for, enabled, facilitated or encouraged the medical abuse of confused children, be it via unthinking affirmation, drugs or surgical mutilation.

Thanks for reminding us. The full picture is important.

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:56

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:52

It's already been said how in the thread. Witches comment, for one.

Er, yes, it is the disagreement. One side wants to obliterate all the sex-based gains our foremother feminists made, as if it were all for nothing. The other side wants to keep them. That's the issue.

what comment was that?

er no that's how you want to frame the disagreement.

the actual disagreement is whether supporting trans rights is a threat to women's rights.

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:55

ChocolateTriflefortwo · 25/09/2025 13:41

she's not particularly bright

’not particularly bright’ people don’t get degrees at Oxford.

Do you really think just because someone is 'book smart' and can remember facts for an exam that makes them intelligent? Some of the most dumbest, most brainwashed and most lacking in any emotional intelligence and lacking in general common sense and ordinary intelligence are those that are university educated.

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:52

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:49

Deliberately cruel how?

disagreeing with her that females are human, exist, and deserve our feminist hard won sex-based rights

yeh that's not the disagreement lol.

It's already been said how in the thread. Witches comment, for one.

Er, yes, it is the disagreement. One side wants to obliterate all the sex-based gains our foremother feminists made, as if it were all for nothing. The other side wants to keep them. That's the issue.

SionnachRuadh · 25/09/2025 13:49

GoldThumb · 25/09/2025 13:48

Tbf, there’s a big difference between being intelligent and being educated.

Univeristies are hardly breeding grounds for critical thinking these days.

And Oxford in particular, no wonder it’s dropping down the ranks

Laurie Penny has a degree from Oxford. Just saying.

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:49

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:47

EW went further than just disagreeing with her, she was deliberately cruel. And it is that which JK can't forgive her for, not merely disagreeing with her that females are human, exist, and deserve our feminist hard won sex-based rights. So you are being disingenuous, as usual.

Deliberately cruel how?

disagreeing with her that females are human, exist, and deserve our feminist hard won sex-based rights

yeh that's not the disagreement lol.

GoldThumb · 25/09/2025 13:48

ChocolateTriflefortwo · 25/09/2025 13:41

she's not particularly bright

’not particularly bright’ people don’t get degrees at Oxford.

Tbf, there’s a big difference between being intelligent and being educated.

Univeristies are hardly breeding grounds for critical thinking these days.

And Oxford in particular, no wonder it’s dropping down the ranks

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 13:47

Tandora · 25/09/2025 13:43

And What a reach this one is, since all it is is Emma Watson saying that although she fundamentally disagrees with JKR (as we have known for a long while) she can still hold in her mind and value at the same time the entirely separate relationship they had. What a radical , unreasonable and childish position eh? 🙄 unlike JKR of course who will apparently "never forgive" EW for not agreeing with her.

lol.

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EW went further than just disagreeing with her, she was deliberately cruel. And it is that which JK can't forgive her for, not merely disagreeing with her that females are human, exist, and deserve our feminist hard won sex-based rights. So you are being disingenuous, as usual.