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Well, hello Emma Watson

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crumpet · 24/09/2025 22:11

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15130209/Harry-Potter-Emma-Watson-treasures-J-K-Rowling-trans-rights.html

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ThePoshUns · 26/09/2025 07:23

StopTheRuccus · 26/09/2025 00:27

Enjoy the impersonation and satire …. 😁

https://youtube.com/shorts/8AWtw7MiIZ8?si=_ZOYfuOgVDH5OrWN

Bravo!

Daygloboo · 26/09/2025 01:01

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 25/09/2025 22:47

It’s the parents with the problem, not the child. You’ve heard of Munchausens by proxy?

Yes i get it.

SquirrelosaurusSoShiny · 26/09/2025 00:03

All ferrets eventually engage reverse! Grin

She makes me sick if I'm honest. Privileged, out of touch and an absolute Judas. What a winning combination!

CohensDiamondTeeth · 25/09/2025 23:25

SnoopyPajamas · 25/09/2025 22:12

I think a lot of celebrities are starting to wake up to the fact that gender bollocks is a career loser. I imagine many of them have come to the horrified realisation that they were in a bubble. They didn't actually care about trans stuff, but they were told the right thing to say, and everyone around them was going along with it, so they jumped in feet first. Got some gushing approval from chronically-online types . . . and then slowly, slowly realised there is a silent majority who don't like this stuff at all. People began to walk away and now celebrities who once believed they were untouchable are starting to feel the chill.

Worse - as people become more emboldened to speak up about all this, our virtue-signalling celebrity friends are starting to get the piss taken out of them.

David Tennant is looking more and more like a frightened ferret. Stephen Fry is sweating through his tweed. Neil Gaiman's toast. Jade Thirlwall's new album has failed to set the world alight, much like her last single. Pedro Pascal is turning audiences off so fast I'm genuinely impressed. I haven't seen the movie-going public get the ick with an actor this fast, since Tom Cruise decided jumping up and down on a sofa was a great way to express his feelings.

Personally I think the creators of South Park, Matt Stone and Trey Parker, could be the next ones to fall. They've been hinting they might be about to ride into battle for trans ideology since they put trans flag colours on the opening credits of the season premiere. And last night they aired an episode featuring an ambiguously gendered ten year old. The point was apparently supposed to be that it was no big deal whether this child was male or female, and the other kids were rude for wanting to know. They should all be happy to embrace this new classmate as an unknown, non-binary entity, who will presumably go by they / them forever.

This is next-level pandering. Interestingly, this season is only being well-received among the most Trump-deranged of fans. The wider feeling is that the show did all this Trump parody stuff ten years ago, too many of the jokes have been recycled from seasons past, and Stone and Parker have lost their once-vaunted ability to satirise both sides of an argument. They've sold out and lost their touch. Now, I'm not saying their decision to pander to the "trans kids" lobby is to blame for all of this. It seems more like a storm of factors coming together. But I am saying . . . white-knighting for the trans cause is starting to feel like opening the tomb of Tutenkhamun. I think there really may be a curse.

And last night they aired an episode featuring an ambiguously gendered ten year old. The point was apparently supposed to be that it was no big deal whether this child was male or female, and the other kids were rude for wanting to know. They should all be happy to embrace this new classmate as an unknown, non-binary entity, who will presumably go by they / them forever.

This is inaccurate. Spoiler warning! For anyone who hasn't watched it yet.

The androgynous child was visiting the school to talk about a scouts type organisation called Webelos. During the 30 seconds total of screen time where this Webelo kid was talking to the class, Cartmen and the rest whispered a little (twice) about whether the Webelo kid was a boy or girl. The Webelo kid doesn't appear in the episode again.

Next scene the boys are in the playground discussing how sure they are the Webelo kid is a boy or girl which leads into the introduction of prediction market app betting.

The focus of the episode was split between taking the piss out of Trump with the storyline about his and Satan's pregnancy, and the storyline Cartman trying to manipulate the kids at school so he could make money on the prediction market app. His plan was to get Sheila Broflovski riled up, causing everyone else to bet using the app that she would bomb a Palestinian hospital, while he put a "safe" bet on that she wouldn't. She gets so angry with everyone asking what she intends to do about the situation in Gaza that she goes to Israel, causing Cartman to momentarily panic, but Sheila just wants to give Netanyahu a piece of her mind so it ends on Sheila giving an angry lecture.

There was nothing pandering to trans ideology in the episode.

It's not as funny as it used to be, but I thought it was still an enjoyable episode. I think it must be hard to do comedy like this these days when everything in real life is already so absurd.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 25/09/2025 23:16

Christinapple · 25/09/2025 09:24

She probably has to pretend to like Jo to prevent receiving abuse.

I think it's a given that expressing any inkling of affection for JKR will result in receiving abuse.

Arraminta · 25/09/2025 22:53

I'm absolutely positive that completing her creative writing studies and wanting to pen her first novel has absolutely nothing to do with her now desperately trying to appease JK Rowling, one of the most successful authors in history who wields a huge amount of gravitas in the publishing world.

Absolutely nothing at all. Nada. Zilch.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 25/09/2025 22:52

Daygloboo · 25/09/2025 18:38

No I'm talking about people on TV I've seen who talk about how they knew their child was different from the sex they were given at birth. It's s straightforward question with no hidden agenda. I've seen and heard this from.parents.

They didn’t know it, because it’s not something that you can know, because it isn’t real. People are not born in the wrong body, no one can change their sex, we are all either male or female.

The parents you’ve heard talking like that are mentally unwell or abusers.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 25/09/2025 22:47

Daygloboo · 25/09/2025 18:06

OK but maybe a bit more complex than that. I mean, you hear about parents who say they knew their child was the opposite from the one on their birth certificate.

It’s the parents with the problem, not the child. You’ve heard of Munchausens by proxy?

SionnachRuadh · 25/09/2025 22:46

I'd be really disappointed to see South Park jump on the bandwagon just as it's losing its popularity. They used to be great at keeping their finger on this pulse.

Then again, Trey and Matt aren't young any more, and South Park has been running since the days when dinosaurs ruled the earth and Jimmy Kimmel was funny.

SnoopyPajamas · 25/09/2025 22:12

I think a lot of celebrities are starting to wake up to the fact that gender bollocks is a career loser. I imagine many of them have come to the horrified realisation that they were in a bubble. They didn't actually care about trans stuff, but they were told the right thing to say, and everyone around them was going along with it, so they jumped in feet first. Got some gushing approval from chronically-online types . . . and then slowly, slowly realised there is a silent majority who don't like this stuff at all. People began to walk away and now celebrities who once believed they were untouchable are starting to feel the chill.

Worse - as people become more emboldened to speak up about all this, our virtue-signalling celebrity friends are starting to get the piss taken out of them.

David Tennant is looking more and more like a frightened ferret. Stephen Fry is sweating through his tweed. Neil Gaiman's toast. Jade Thirlwall's new album has failed to set the world alight, much like her last single. Pedro Pascal is turning audiences off so fast I'm genuinely impressed. I haven't seen the movie-going public get the ick with an actor this fast, since Tom Cruise decided jumping up and down on a sofa was a great way to express his feelings.

Personally I think the creators of South Park, Matt Stone and Trey Parker, could be the next ones to fall. They've been hinting they might be about to ride into battle for trans ideology since they put trans flag colours on the opening credits of the season premiere. And last night they aired an episode featuring an ambiguously gendered ten year old. The point was apparently supposed to be that it was no big deal whether this child was male or female, and the other kids were rude for wanting to know. They should all be happy to embrace this new classmate as an unknown, non-binary entity, who will presumably go by they / them forever.

This is next-level pandering. Interestingly, this season is only being well-received among the most Trump-deranged of fans. The wider feeling is that the show did all this Trump parody stuff ten years ago, too many of the jokes have been recycled from seasons past, and Stone and Parker have lost their once-vaunted ability to satirise both sides of an argument. They've sold out and lost their touch. Now, I'm not saying their decision to pander to the "trans kids" lobby is to blame for all of this. It seems more like a storm of factors coming together. But I am saying . . . white-knighting for the trans cause is starting to feel like opening the tomb of Tutenkhamun. I think there really may be a curse.

Bonbon21 · 25/09/2025 21:10

She is a brat.
Biting the hand that fed her.
Thinks she is relevant.. hah!!
Completely forgetable...

Waitwhat23 · 25/09/2025 21:03

I'd be far more inclined to offer a golden bridge to Watson and the rest of those who decided to make snide, nippy comments at JKR for, well, stating that women have a legal right to single sex spaces as stated in the EQA2010, even if I do think those celebrities showed an embarrassing urge to follow the crowd and not actually engage their brains...

...if, as part of that, Watson hadn't actively promoted and urged her followers to donate to the damaging organisation, Mermaids -

www.gov.uk/government/news/poor-governance-at-mermaids-amounted-to-mismanagement-inquiry-reveals

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/charity-inquiry-mermaids/charity-inquiry-mermaids

If Watson's now on a public image improvement spin after her driving ban and/or has had her nose put out of joint because a considerably more accomplished child actress is going to take on the role she made an absolute hash out of and wants to plead her way into some sort of role by making nice to the woman she demonised and sneered at for years, then that's up to her.

Doesn't make her seem sincere though. Just self serving.

Clafoutie · 25/09/2025 20:59

ArabellaSaurus · 25/09/2025 14:44

Very insightful.

She needs to do some more self reflection, away from the public eye.

There's bugger all honesty in the privileged TWAW bubble, which is why they flail about not knowing what's up - when everything is performative and nothing is informed by reality, it must be hard to have no solid ground beneath your feet.

Very insightful

I disagree. I think unless someone knows her personally, that is a lot of assumptions/ speculation about Emma Watson’s character in that post!

Catiette · 25/09/2025 20:45

I'd have thought that with media training she'd be able to avoid the "likes". It feels unusual to see to that extent in someone her age, with her education. I do wonder if it's performative - generational? "one of you"-ing?!

idontwanttobestalked · 25/09/2025 20:45

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 25/09/2025 20:29

Some people think the earth is flat, that is their opinion, science tells us they are wrong.

Some men think that they can be women, that is their opinion, science tells us they are wrong.

Opinions are opinions, facts are facts, you don’t seem to understand the difference.

As an atheist, this debate has always been so confusing to me because I thought that fellow atheists understood that we are all animals. Mammals, which are male or female. I was very young but vaguely remember the online atheist discussions and spaces in the early 00s when it was a less mainstream view, especially in the US... the flying spaghetti monster etc... a lot of people who were very very on board with that are now TWAW. I don't understand it.

ThatCyanCat · 25/09/2025 20:44

ZoeCM · 25/09/2025 20:40

“It’s been a discovery and a journey that’s been humbling because on a movie set, I’m able to do all of these like extremely complex things, stunt, sing, dance, like do this thing, do that, whatever. And I’m like, ‘Yep, don’t worry about it, guys’. And then I get home and I’m like, ‘OK Emma, you seem unable to remember your keys. You seem unable to keep yourself at 30mph in a 30mph speed limit. Like you don’t seem able to do some pretty basic life things’."

I know narcissism is an overused phrase, but I wonder if it applies here. She's managed to shoehorn a list of the "extremely complex" things she can do into an apology for speeding.

She can't sing or dance. And I really doubt she did her own stunts. She acts with her eyebrows. What's she rabbiting about?

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ZoeCM · 25/09/2025 20:40

“It’s been a discovery and a journey that’s been humbling because on a movie set, I’m able to do all of these like extremely complex things, stunt, sing, dance, like do this thing, do that, whatever. And I’m like, ‘Yep, don’t worry about it, guys’. And then I get home and I’m like, ‘OK Emma, you seem unable to remember your keys. You seem unable to keep yourself at 30mph in a 30mph speed limit. Like you don’t seem able to do some pretty basic life things’."

I know narcissism is an overused phrase, but I wonder if it applies here. She's managed to shoehorn a list of the "extremely complex" things she can do into an apology for speeding.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 25/09/2025 20:29

Tandora · 25/09/2025 14:39

Nothing confuses me - I understand your opinion/ logic as you recount it here entirely. I also disagree with it entirely.

You seem to be confused at the idea that not everyone shares your opinion/ logic... Why is that? Why is it so impossible for you to even accept that some people have a different perspective on this subject to you?

Some people think the earth is flat, that is their opinion, science tells us they are wrong.

Some men think that they can be women, that is their opinion, science tells us they are wrong.

Opinions are opinions, facts are facts, you don’t seem to understand the difference.

Martharian · 25/09/2025 20:27

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/8AWtw7MiIZ8

I haven’t seen much of Emma Watson to know if this is a good impression or not

Before you continue to YouTube

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/8AWtw7MiIZ8

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Oh God I forgot about him. And for once, he didn't start posting totally irrelevant Wikipedia links with no explanation. Fuck, I owe my friend £5. Unless we give him until midnight?

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 25/09/2025 20:22

She’s just trying to make herself look like the bigger/nicer/more reasonable person.