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Well, hello Emma Watson

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crumpet · 24/09/2025 22:11

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15130209/Harry-Potter-Emma-Watson-treasures-J-K-Rowling-trans-rights.html

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WallaceinAnderland · 26/09/2025 14:29

So on our side we have jeering and crowing and on the other we have abusive language and threats of violence.

Laughing is literal violence though. It's literally killing people and denying their existence. Laughter is genocide. And racism. And fascist. Stop it. Right now.

ItsCoolForCats · 26/09/2025 13:42

That Intel Lady spoof is sublime. Emma Watson is the embodiment of the empty, performative virtue signalling that goes on in the arts world.

ThatBlackCat · 26/09/2025 13:28

Seeing some great comments on twitter that some handmaidens on this thread might want to consider before they implore JKR and us to 'BeKind':

"I don’t want to be overly unforgiving, but I think these people need to start on their knees They did terrible damage. A heartfelt apology must be the first step"

and

"No one is asking for forgiveness what they asking you for is forgetness. There is no remorse or contrition, only a plea of amnesia so they can cease to feel their loss of income"
[me] True. They want you to forget while they don't even have to do the barest of minimum - an apology. You (we) must do all the heavy lifting and emotional work. They do fuck all and no apology and no contrition.

Lastly, the great Jon Pike: "JKR's response in the last day or so is a handy guide to the 'Golden Bridge' vs 'unrelenting hostility' contrast. The first question to be asked of, and answered by, those now reverse-ferreting like mad is:

Do you realize what you did? "

gotmyknickersinatwist · 26/09/2025 13:03

Daygloboo · 26/09/2025 01:01

Yes i get it.

@Daygloboo in what way do small children behave like the opposite sex?

Maaate · 26/09/2025 12:58

So on our side we have jeering and crowing and on the other we have abusive language and threats of violence.

Yes, I can see how we're the problem 🙄

DialSquare · 26/09/2025 12:54

Shortshriftandlethal · 26/09/2025 12:07

Edited

“I’m here for ALL the spoofs”

Brilliant!!!

ThatCyanCat · 26/09/2025 12:32

My abusive father would be verbally or physically abusive, or both, and then pretend nothing had happened. When you remained upset some time later, he'd approach you with this shit eating grin that he clearly thought was charming and disarming, and say "Come on, let's make up! Family forever, right? Don't be nasty!" No apology, no promise to change, no acknowledgement of the abuse.

Needless to say, I would consistently tell him to shove it, and then be traduced for not being nice, for being bitter, for not getting over it, for not being appreciative of his sweet attempts to end the rift and create peace, for wanting to prolong the argument. How horrid of me!

I'm seeing exactly the same shite playing out here.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 26/09/2025 12:32

SionnachRuadh · 26/09/2025 11:29

JKR herself, though at the core of her belief is an ironclad commitment to women's single sex spaces, only dipped her toe in very tentatively for quite a while. I think it's fair to say that the insane backlash from TRAs radicalised her.

If Emma were to get peaked that way, I think she'd understand.

Absolutely.

She started with, "Let's all be kind to trans people, but FFS you can't fire people for saying biological sex is real and important, that's insane."

And then six months later, "I don't like women being referred to as "menstruators", that's weird and dehumanising. I know this is a wild idea, but maybe we do actually need a word for adult human females."

Both those statements are so tame and look at all the abuse she got.

I don't like to say I wish the same kind of abuse on Emma, but I think if she does find herself on the receiving end of it she might understand how and why JKR progressed to, "Some of these people are horrible and unhinged and of course women need spaces which don't include them!"

Namelessnelly · 26/09/2025 12:24

Timeforabitofpeace · 26/09/2025 11:33

Just not so hate filled, @Namelessnelly . I don’t believe most trans people are threatening others with death, any more than you are.

Ummm errrr. I’ve seen them. And if “most trans people” don’t agree with the abuse women are getting, why are they not standing up and saying so? I mean. Have you checked out the website “terfisaslur”? You’ll see what hatefilled loooks like.

ThePoshUns · 26/09/2025 12:22

Ooof JK is really having some fun with this. Good for her.

GoldThumb · 26/09/2025 12:02

ThatBlackCat · 26/09/2025 11:53

May I ask, politely, with love and kum ba yas, who on earth you think you're fooling?

This exactly. They're so transparent. GC my arse! They really must think we came down in the last shower! They really must.

‘As GC as they come’ I’m sure 😁

ArabellaSaurus · 26/09/2025 12:01

Timeforabitofpeace · 26/09/2025 10:42

I liked the fact she said nice things about JKR. I’m sick of the endless spite, and the GC movement has done nothing but crow and jeer since the announcement. And I say that as gc myself. This board is rife for it.

You are 'GC', so presumably happy to enjoy the fruits of many years of labour, sacrifice, and suffering of those who fought for women's rights, but want to reserve the right to insult said women for not being to your taste. And you want to criticise the tone.

Oh I See GIF by Silicon Valley
ThatCyanCat · 26/09/2025 11:58

NotBadConsidering · 26/09/2025 11:50

For an “oppressed minority” there’s an awful lot of them wishing harm and death to “terfs”. They certainly massively outnumber the ones condemning such threats.

I'd also suggest that if you can get a man arrested, at the airport he lands in to arrive in the country, because you don't like his tweets, you may be a minority but you sure ain't oppressed.

ThatBlackCat · 26/09/2025 11:53

ThatCyanCat · 26/09/2025 11:44

Women celebrating a legal ruling that they can have single sex spaces aren't hate filled and you know it. The TRAs have saturated the market in hate and you know that too.

May I ask, politely, with love and kum ba yas, who on earth you think you're fooling?

May I ask, politely, with love and kum ba yas, who on earth you think you're fooling?

This exactly. They're so transparent. GC my arse! They really must think we came down in the last shower! They really must.

NotBadConsidering · 26/09/2025 11:50

Timeforabitofpeace · 26/09/2025 11:33

Just not so hate filled, @Namelessnelly . I don’t believe most trans people are threatening others with death, any more than you are.

For an “oppressed minority” there’s an awful lot of them wishing harm and death to “terfs”. They certainly massively outnumber the ones condemning such threats.

ThatBlackCat · 26/09/2025 11:49

Timeforabitofpeace · 26/09/2025 11:33

Just not so hate filled, @Namelessnelly . I don’t believe most trans people are threatening others with death, any more than you are.

None of us are 'hate filled'. We are just angry. That' all. Angry. And we have every right to be. Go lecture the TAs who are now turning on EW for still agreeing with them!

ThatBlackCat · 26/09/2025 11:47

ThatBlackCat · 26/09/2025 11:30

Oh do get real! She is in her 30s. She spitefully mocked JK on an awards show, while JK was getting RAPE THREATS and death threats and bomb threats! She not once called it out and said, this has gone too far people shouldn't be making those threats. She still won't apologise to JK and she still believes in it. Nothing has changed. Get back to us with your "the GC movement should 'BeKind' " to a vile woman who still won't apologise when she apologises to JK. Only when she apologises to JK, will she be worthy of 'less spite'. Stop lecturing us! Until EW apologises save your misogynistic and tone-death scolding lectures.

*tone deaf . Not tone 'death'. 🙄😳Not sure why I typed that. Blame my very fast typing while eating at the same time. Although both work, I guess.

ThatBlackCat · 26/09/2025 11:44

NotBadConsidering · 26/09/2025 11:30

Given that Watson still supports the demolition of women’s rights and the transition and sterilisation of children, I don’t quite understand how her “I still love JKR” mumblings warrants some sort of pat on the head.

Quite. Nothing has changed. Nothing at all, has changed. And to think some airheads (and might I remind these airheads that EW has not apologised to JK and refuses to apologise to her) with a brass neck are coming on here saying 'oh BeKind'? NO! Nothing at all even remotely has changed. Why should we 'BeKind' to a hateful, smug and spiteful woman who sat back and said nothing while people threatened to burn JK alive and bomb her house and rape her?

Who the F do these handmaidens think they are?

We will maybe 'BeKind' when EW apologises to JK. Not a second before. Not one second before. That's it for me at least.

ThatCyanCat · 26/09/2025 11:44

Timeforabitofpeace · 26/09/2025 11:33

Just not so hate filled, @Namelessnelly . I don’t believe most trans people are threatening others with death, any more than you are.

Women celebrating a legal ruling that they can have single sex spaces aren't hate filled and you know it. The TRAs have saturated the market in hate and you know that too.

May I ask, politely, with love and kum ba yas, who on earth you think you're fooling?

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 26/09/2025 11:39

Timeforabitofpeace · 26/09/2025 11:33

Just not so hate filled, @Namelessnelly . I don’t believe most trans people are threatening others with death, any more than you are.

How many death threats from trans people to women are acceptable just so we know?

Timeforabitofpeace · 26/09/2025 11:33

Just not so hate filled, @Namelessnelly . I don’t believe most trans people are threatening others with death, any more than you are.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 26/09/2025 11:33

NotBadConsidering · 26/09/2025 11:30

Given that Watson still supports the demolition of women’s rights and the transition and sterilisation of children, I don’t quite understand how her “I still love JKR” mumblings warrants some sort of pat on the head.

Maybe she's feeling a prickle of guilt about how much she loves the wealth and privilege JKR has given her.

ThatBlackCat · 26/09/2025 11:30

Timeforabitofpeace · 26/09/2025 10:42

I liked the fact she said nice things about JKR. I’m sick of the endless spite, and the GC movement has done nothing but crow and jeer since the announcement. And I say that as gc myself. This board is rife for it.

Oh do get real! She is in her 30s. She spitefully mocked JK on an awards show, while JK was getting RAPE THREATS and death threats and bomb threats! She not once called it out and said, this has gone too far people shouldn't be making those threats. She still won't apologise to JK and she still believes in it. Nothing has changed. Get back to us with your "the GC movement should 'BeKind' " to a vile woman who still won't apologise when she apologises to JK. Only when she apologises to JK, will she be worthy of 'less spite'. Stop lecturing us! Until EW apologises save your misogynistic and tone-death scolding lectures.

NotBadConsidering · 26/09/2025 11:30

Given that Watson still supports the demolition of women’s rights and the transition and sterilisation of children, I don’t quite understand how her “I still love JKR” mumblings warrants some sort of pat on the head.