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Well, hello Emma Watson

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crumpet · 24/09/2025 22:11

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15130209/Harry-Potter-Emma-Watson-treasures-J-K-Rowling-trans-rights.html

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WandaSiri · 27/09/2025 12:25

I don't think she has changed her mind, I think she is just saying ooh isn't this toxic, why can't we just be mates like we used to be and can you give me a leg up in my writing career. Merrymouse's "clean white tablecloth" metaphor sums it up.

Boston365 · 27/09/2025 12:21

Looks like she can no longer ignore that cognitive dissonance….

How embarrassing for her that rather than staying quiet whilst she does some research on the different viewpoints, seemingly without much thought she spectacularly nailed her colours to the mast.

Now Emma is finding it difficult to be honest about this ideology without showing the world what a massive virtue signalling empty headed moron she is.

Really it would just be easier to admit she got some things wrong and apologise, but she doesn’t want to suffer the wrath of the TRA’s like JK has. So she’ll try and appease both side and fool no one, I shan’t feel sorry for her, she’s made her bed.

SionnachRuadh · 27/09/2025 12:07

Merrymouse · 27/09/2025 11:55

It's notable that EW has never engaged with any of the issues that JKR has raised.

She just wants to throw a clean white table cloth over everything in the hope that nobody notices what is underneath.

I doubt that she's thought about any of these issues.

I don't think she's a horrible person. I just think that she's silly and vacuous and narcissistic and completely out of touch with the real world and prone to go along unthinkingly with whatever cause is fashionable in her circle. These are absolutely standard traits of actors.

I miss the days when actors just did curated interviews when they had a film to promote, and when only a few of them were political and they'd given some thought to their causes. Now they're on Bluesky all frigging day and Mark Ruffalo is opining on who Hungarians should vote for and Mark Ruffalo seems like a nice man but there is no way on earth that he could find Hungary on a map.

Merrymouse · 27/09/2025 11:55

It's notable that EW has never engaged with any of the issues that JKR has raised.

She just wants to throw a clean white table cloth over everything in the hope that nobody notices what is underneath.

lcakethereforeIam · 27/09/2025 11:50

You can't ride two horses with the tra crowd, there's a section that are absolutely vicious. The rest, who might be more measured but can see where that lands you, just stay cravenly silent. JKR must be cast into the outer darkness.

As for myself. Emma Watson claims to love JKR!? Funny way of showing it. If you love someone you should stand up for them. She hasn't, doesn't, so I don't believe her. Saying she respects her, I can believe. People can often respect their opponents. That would still be too far for the tras though.

I do wish the tras lay off her though. I'm no fan of self serving, empty platitudes but, as well as EW getting it in the neck, I bet it unleashes a fresh load of the same but worse for JKR.

LaurelBush · 27/09/2025 11:43

JKR responds:

J.K. Rowling

It’s quite extraordinary how many people think a crocodile will be so grateful you’ve fed it red meat for years that it’ll let you stroll away unharmed when you decide you want a break.

👏

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1971869015325962314

J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) on X

It’s quite extraordinary how many people think a crocodile will be so grateful you’ve fed it red meat for years that it’ll let you stroll away unharmed when you decide you want a break.

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1971869015325962314

LaurelBush · 27/09/2025 11:34

teawamutu · 27/09/2025 11:30

Acting like a silly, spiteful child when you're in your thirties.

Yeah, you can fuck off with the 'subtly rowing back with wide eyes'.

Grow a pair of fucking ovaries, admit you were a twat and apologise, then a modicum of respect might come your way.

Hilariously, E Watson has managed to do what many others have failed at, which is uniting the TRAs and the TERFs - we all now think she's a craven fool 😆

teawamutu · 27/09/2025 11:30

LaurelBush · 27/09/2025 11:17

OMG. I didn't know this about Watson:

Then there was the 2022 BAFTAs. Emma marched up on stage, grinned, and started her speech with, “I’m here for all the witches,” before mouthing “bar one.” Many of Watson’s admirers took this to be a sly dig at Rowling — because nothing would scream female empowerment like sneering at the woman who gave you your career.

I've just watched the clip. She definitely says "Bar one", with a knowing look. No wonder JKR is having none of her craven attempts to row back a bit!

Acting like a silly, spiteful child when you're in your thirties.

Yeah, you can fuck off with the 'subtly rowing back with wide eyes'.

Grow a pair of fucking ovaries, admit you were a twat and apologise, then a modicum of respect might come your way.

Maaate · 27/09/2025 11:18

lcakethereforeIam · 27/09/2025 11:12

Well this seems to be going down well in tra land😬

thecritic.co.uk/the-gender-fanatics-are-never-satisfied/

But we crowed and jeered and said some things that were a bit mean, so obviously we're worse!

LaurelBush · 27/09/2025 11:17

OMG. I didn't know this about Watson:

Then there was the 2022 BAFTAs. Emma marched up on stage, grinned, and started her speech with, “I’m here for all the witches,” before mouthing “bar one.” Many of Watson’s admirers took this to be a sly dig at Rowling — because nothing would scream female empowerment like sneering at the woman who gave you your career.

I've just watched the clip. She definitely says "Bar one", with a knowing look. No wonder JKR is having none of her craven attempts to row back a bit!

People Are Praising Emma Watson's Alleged Jab At J.K. Rowling, Just Days After J.K. Went On An Anti-Trans Rant On Twitter

"It was a giant dig at J.K. and I love her for it."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanschocket2/emma-watson-digs-jk-rowling-at-baftas

lcakethereforeIam · 27/09/2025 11:12

Well this seems to be going down well in tra land😬

thecritic.co.uk/the-gender-fanatics-are-never-satisfied/

ThatCyanCat · 27/09/2025 00:28

TiredOldHen · 27/09/2025 00:05

I think it might be to do with Charlie Kirk and the very vocal threats to JKR which might suddenly seem more real. if this is true, the most generous interpretation would be Emma trying to dial down the hysterical hate in the debate as she genuinely would hate to see anything happen to JKR. The less generous interpretation would be she wants to distance herself from any backlash if the worst was to happen.

She's surely aware that a man was convicted of threatening to kill JKR and that Salman Rushdie was attacked so these things do happen, and of the tsunami of abuse and threats JKR has received. All old news, long predating Kirk's murder.

I think PPs are right. She wants a career change, probably as a writer, and thinks it would be useful if JKR had her back.

TiredOldHen · 27/09/2025 00:05

I think it might be to do with Charlie Kirk and the very vocal threats to JKR which might suddenly seem more real. if this is true, the most generous interpretation would be Emma trying to dial down the hysterical hate in the debate as she genuinely would hate to see anything happen to JKR. The less generous interpretation would be she wants to distance herself from any backlash if the worst was to happen.

ThatCyanCat · 26/09/2025 19:32

weegielass · 26/09/2025 15:40

did JKR not tweet something in the past about how people had criticised her in public then attempted to reach out to check she was still their pal? I bet one of them was Emma. I hope she told them to FOTTFSOF

What an amazing woman she is for not outing them.

ThatBlackCat · 26/09/2025 18:44

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 26/09/2025 15:54

It's not exactly a surprise that the film industry is still misogynistic AF though, is it? (Which is what "pro trans" invariably means.)

Sall Grover hit the nail on the head when she said that trans ideology is like the patriarchy's reaction to the me too movement. Women asserted their sexual boundaries, so countries all over the Western world made women's sexual boundaries illegal.

You're right about one thing, which is that Watson probably calculated that she'd got everything she was ever going to get out of the Harry Potter franchise, so it was a smarter move to bite the (only hand that ever) fed her and suck up to people who might still be useful to her.

Unfortunately, she can't act, so it was all for nothing.

Exactly. Trans Ideology is 100% mens reaction to the #MeToo movement. It's their fuckyou revenge to women. Many of us women have called this out.

ThatBlackCat · 26/09/2025 18:42

WeeGeeBored · 26/09/2025 15:18

Given that most in the film industry are pro trans I do not think that making nice with Mme Rowling will get her any parts. Also, from the sound of it she has been trying to contact JK for a long time with no success.

That's what EW manipulatively eludes to. JK has said differently on twitter. Considering how quick Jo was to forgive others, and how quick she was to forgive that trans man who (pretended) to stop being trans and apologised to Jo and Jo was so nice to them, if EW actually did contact her and apologise, we'd know about it. I believe Jo.

teawamutu · 26/09/2025 17:53

Motnight · 26/09/2025 17:22

I do hope that JK gives Emma all the support that she deserves in her writing career

I think she just did.

GoldThumb · 26/09/2025 17:32

Motnight · 26/09/2025 17:22

I do hope that JK gives Emma all the support that she deserves in her writing career

😁

BreadInCaptivity · 26/09/2025 17:31

Motnight · 26/09/2025 17:22

I do hope that JK gives Emma all the support that she deserves in her writing career

😂

Motnight · 26/09/2025 17:22

I do hope that JK gives Emma all the support that she deserves in her writing career

WandChoosesTheWitch · 26/09/2025 16:16

TempestTost · 24/09/2025 22:18

I've seen her in the news a couple times in the last few days, she must be looking to get back into business in some capacity.

I went ahead watched the interview on YouTube because it was the only way to get an idea of what her agenda was.

I got the impression that she wants to establish herself in the public eye with a more mature, more serious/thoughtful persona before she launches her new career as a writer/playwright. A rebranding, if you will.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 26/09/2025 15:54

WeeGeeBored · 26/09/2025 15:18

Given that most in the film industry are pro trans I do not think that making nice with Mme Rowling will get her any parts. Also, from the sound of it she has been trying to contact JK for a long time with no success.

It's not exactly a surprise that the film industry is still misogynistic AF though, is it? (Which is what "pro trans" invariably means.)

Sall Grover hit the nail on the head when she said that trans ideology is like the patriarchy's reaction to the me too movement. Women asserted their sexual boundaries, so countries all over the Western world made women's sexual boundaries illegal.

You're right about one thing, which is that Watson probably calculated that she'd got everything she was ever going to get out of the Harry Potter franchise, so it was a smarter move to bite the (only hand that ever) fed her and suck up to people who might still be useful to her.

Unfortunately, she can't act, so it was all for nothing.

weegielass · 26/09/2025 15:40

did JKR not tweet something in the past about how people had criticised her in public then attempted to reach out to check she was still their pal? I bet one of them was Emma. I hope she told them to FOTTFSOF

WeeGeeBored · 26/09/2025 15:18

Superhansrantowindsor · 25/09/2025 06:30

Would that be the Emma Watson who hasn’t had a film part for 7 years? I wonder what has prompted her to say this?

Given that most in the film industry are pro trans I do not think that making nice with Mme Rowling will get her any parts. Also, from the sound of it she has been trying to contact JK for a long time with no success.

ArabellaSaurus · 26/09/2025 14:41

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 26/09/2025 12:32

Absolutely.

She started with, "Let's all be kind to trans people, but FFS you can't fire people for saying biological sex is real and important, that's insane."

And then six months later, "I don't like women being referred to as "menstruators", that's weird and dehumanising. I know this is a wild idea, but maybe we do actually need a word for adult human females."

Both those statements are so tame and look at all the abuse she got.

I don't like to say I wish the same kind of abuse on Emma, but I think if she does find herself on the receiving end of it she might understand how and why JKR progressed to, "Some of these people are horrible and unhinged and of course women need spaces which don't include them!"

Nah. JK started from a position of curiosity and then explained her thoughts. Watson is coming from a position of trying to control - whether preaching, smearing, impugning or wheedling. Different energy, man.