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Well, hello Emma Watson

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crumpet · 24/09/2025 22:11

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15130209/Harry-Potter-Emma-Watson-treasures-J-K-Rowling-trans-rights.html

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ArabellaSaurus · 29/09/2025 12:02

DialSquare · 29/09/2025 11:09

JKR’s response below (copied from Nitter)

J.K. Rowling@jk_rowling11m
I'm seeing quite a bit of comment about this, so I want to make a couple of points.

I'm not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days.

Emma Watson and her co-stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss of work, or violence, or death, because of them.

However, Emma and Dan in particular have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right - nay, obligation - to critique me and my views in public. Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.

When you've known people since they were ten years old it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to throw off the memory of children who needed to be gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio. For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma specifically, most notably on the Witch Trials of JK Rowling. Ironically, I told the producers that I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said.

The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's 'all witches' speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me, but it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself. Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence 'I'm so sorry for what you're going through' (she has my phone number). This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak, at a time when my personal security measures had had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety. Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness.

Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life she's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood. Her 'public bathroom' is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed-sex changing room at a council-run swimming pool? Is she ever likely to need a state-run rape crisis centre that refuses to guarantee an all-female service? To find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison?

I wasn't a multimillionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.

The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me - a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was - I might never have been this honest.

Adults can't expect to cosy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love, as though the friend was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public - but I have the same right, and I've finally decided to exercise it.

Geezo, she should consider writing as a career.

Arraminta · 29/09/2025 11:55

DialSquare · 29/09/2025 11:09

JKR’s response below (copied from Nitter)

J.K. Rowling@jk_rowling11m
I'm seeing quite a bit of comment about this, so I want to make a couple of points.

I'm not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days.

Emma Watson and her co-stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss of work, or violence, or death, because of them.

However, Emma and Dan in particular have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right - nay, obligation - to critique me and my views in public. Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.

When you've known people since they were ten years old it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to throw off the memory of children who needed to be gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio. For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma specifically, most notably on the Witch Trials of JK Rowling. Ironically, I told the producers that I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said.

The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's 'all witches' speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me, but it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself. Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence 'I'm so sorry for what you're going through' (she has my phone number). This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak, at a time when my personal security measures had had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety. Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness.

Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life she's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood. Her 'public bathroom' is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed-sex changing room at a council-run swimming pool? Is she ever likely to need a state-run rape crisis centre that refuses to guarantee an all-female service? To find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison?

I wasn't a multimillionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.

The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me - a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was - I might never have been this honest.

Adults can't expect to cosy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love, as though the friend was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public - but I have the same right, and I've finally decided to exercise it.

And that Emma Watson is how to write.

Not the tedious, self absorbed word-soup courtesy of your MA Creative Writing Degree. Just so that you know, you cannot be taught brilliance no matter how many posh universities you go to.

Whereas, JKR had brilliance, living in poverty, scribbling in a notebook in a scruffy cafe in Edinburgh.

StopTheRuccus · 29/09/2025 11:52

That’s an amazing reply by JKR, full of insight and intelligence. And compassion - but also clarity at the use by some of the “woke” platform for professional advantage.

Emma Watson could have said she was, simply, wrong. Maybe one day she will. People do get things wrong, especially when young, and some of us have changed our minds eg. from our youthful political naivety (I know I have). However when you are shielded from reality by privilege it is easier to carry on believing nonsense in your privileged echo chamber. Also, interesting that JKR mentions the hurtfulness of Watson’s “witches” remark; I also thought it was meant to cause personal hurt.

Anyway, hopefully JKR’s response will now end this matter.

DialSquare · 29/09/2025 11:51

teawamutu · 29/09/2025 11:12

You come for the Queen, you best not miss.

Watson, Radcliffe and the other midwit cowards should hang their heads in shame.

Agreed. I can’t imagine reading something like that aimed at me and not feeling intense shame.

Mistyglade · 29/09/2025 11:51

JK is clear as day concerning her beliefs. Watson is muddled and confused (polite for what I really mean) and doesn't know her arse from her elbow. I have no doubt her writing will be as bullshit as her acting.

user9637 · 29/09/2025 11:49

DialSquare · 29/09/2025 11:09

JKR’s response below (copied from Nitter)

J.K. Rowling@jk_rowling11m
I'm seeing quite a bit of comment about this, so I want to make a couple of points.

I'm not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days.

Emma Watson and her co-stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss of work, or violence, or death, because of them.

However, Emma and Dan in particular have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right - nay, obligation - to critique me and my views in public. Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.

When you've known people since they were ten years old it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to throw off the memory of children who needed to be gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio. For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma specifically, most notably on the Witch Trials of JK Rowling. Ironically, I told the producers that I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said.

The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's 'all witches' speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me, but it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself. Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence 'I'm so sorry for what you're going through' (she has my phone number). This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak, at a time when my personal security measures had had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety. Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness.

Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life she's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood. Her 'public bathroom' is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed-sex changing room at a council-run swimming pool? Is she ever likely to need a state-run rape crisis centre that refuses to guarantee an all-female service? To find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison?

I wasn't a multimillionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.

The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me - a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was - I might never have been this honest.

Adults can't expect to cosy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love, as though the friend was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public - but I have the same right, and I've finally decided to exercise it.

Thanks @DialSquare - what a powerful read. God I love this woman.

Helleofabore · 29/09/2025 11:44

That was a very honest tweet from
JK Rowling.

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 29/09/2025 11:44

That was quite a read.

Emma passing that note is more evidence, imho, that she was hoping to ride the two horses. This isn't the same as trying to be balanced or neutral, it's actively attempting to court approval and relationships with both sides.

weegielass · 29/09/2025 11:39

So I was right, it was Emma who reached out those years ago, I was sure I remembered JKR alluding to something like this. You can really sense the hurt in JKR's post, but she's right - Emma isn't 10 years old anymore.

ThePoshUns · 29/09/2025 11:37

This is so powerful and honest. Thank you for sharing. JKR is and always has been so measured in her argument. Well done to her.

AutumnyCrow · 29/09/2025 11:29

EBearhug · 24/09/2025 22:17

Isn't she doing a DPhil in Eng Lit currently?

I believe it’s something called a ‘Master of Studies’ in creative writing, which all sounds a bit Viz Comic.

JKR just gave her a free masterclass in writing a factual piece imbued with emotion.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 11:17

ThatBlackCat · 29/09/2025 08:18

Wtf? I didn't know that! How the hell is she an Ambassador for the United Nations women’s section? That's like having a Mens Rights Activist an Ambassador for women. Or an unrepentant alcoholic an Ambassador for AA. EW doe not believe in womens rights. Wtf is she playing at, being an ambassador for women? This must be some kind of a sick joke they're playing.

Marginally better than the UN appointing Munroe Bergdorf as a champion for women.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/09/2025 11:15

Wow.

teawamutu · 29/09/2025 11:12

You come for the Queen, you best not miss.

Watson, Radcliffe and the other midwit cowards should hang their heads in shame.

DialSquare · 29/09/2025 11:09

JKR’s response below (copied from Nitter)

J.K. Rowling@jk_rowling11m
I'm seeing quite a bit of comment about this, so I want to make a couple of points.

I'm not owed eternal agreement from any actor who once played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous as me checking with the boss I had when I was twenty-one for what opinions I should hold these days.

Emma Watson and her co-stars have every right to embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss of work, or violence, or death, because of them.

However, Emma and Dan in particular have both made it clear over the last few years that they think our former professional association gives them a particular right - nay, obligation - to critique me and my views in public. Years after they finished acting in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the world I created.

When you've known people since they were ten years old it's hard to shake a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to throw off the memory of children who needed to be gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio. For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined invitations from journalists to comment on Emma specifically, most notably on the Witch Trials of JK Rowling. Ironically, I told the producers that I didn't want her to be hounded as the result of anything I said.

The television presenter in the attached clip highlights Emma's 'all witches' speech, and in truth, that was a turning point for me, but it had a postscript that hurt far more than the speech itself. Emma asked someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me, which contained the single sentence 'I'm so sorry for what you're going through' (she has my phone number). This was back when the death, rape and torture threats against me were at their peak, at a time when my personal security measures had had to be tightened considerably and I was constantly worried for my family's safety. Emma had just publicly poured more petrol on the flames, yet thought a one line expression of concern from her would reassure me of her fundamental sympathy and kindness.

Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life she's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if she's been in a high street changing room since childhood. Her 'public bathroom' is single occupancy and comes with a security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had to strip off in a newly mixed-sex changing room at a council-run swimming pool? Is she ever likely to need a state-run rape crisis centre that refuses to guarantee an all-female service? To find herself sharing a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into the women's prison?

I wasn't a multimillionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.

The greatest irony here is that, had Emma not decided in her most recent interview to declare that she loves and treasures me - a change of tack I suspect she's adopted because she's noticed full-throated condemnation of me is no longer quite as fashionable as it was - I might never have been this honest.

Adults can't expect to cosy up to an activist movement that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their right to the former friend's love, as though the friend was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to disagree with me and indeed to discuss her feelings about me in public - but I have the same right, and I've finally decided to exercise it.

StopTheRuccus · 29/09/2025 10:46

@ThatBlackCat Watson has been a goodwill ambassador for UN Women since 2014. And still is, despite the controversies. Prior to her appointment she was said to be involved in promoting women’s education and had visited Bangladesh and Zambia, though what this actually involved is hard to know. Pre-Harry Meghan Markle managed to get herself assigned an “advocate” role for women in UN organisation but allegedly left in a hissy fit when they would not then promote her to “ambassador”.

SionnachRuadh · 29/09/2025 09:16

Creative writing degrees are a bit of a scam anyway. Loads of people do them, but you never hear of an interesting new writer who's done one.

If Emma enjoys it, fine, she can afford whatever leisure activity she likes. And if she does write a book, she'll probably get a publishing deal based on her name alone. But she's not convinced me yet that she's got anything to say.

MondayYogurt · 29/09/2025 09:09

Last week I was impressed with her PR, I thought it was an interesting strategy and got her back into public consciousness. But this week it’s gone too far, and tipped over into ‘enough already’ territory. One or two self deprecating remarks, fine. ‘Me soooo relatable because mental health’ bashed over our heads in puff piece after puff piece - just stop.
It’s time to shhhhh.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 29/09/2025 08:53

It could be at 35 Emma Watson has clocked that older women aren’t necessarily malicious hags and do can talk sense
Also, acknowledging that other people have legitimate opinions and are not committing literal genoicde is a good starting point to evaluate those opinions (and hopefully clock at some stage that in this instance they’re not so much opinions as facts)

ThatBlackCat · 29/09/2025 08:18

StopTheRuccus · 28/09/2025 19:48

Emma Watson is blathering her victimhood in the Telegraph today 🙄 . The main thrust of her struggle, no exaggeration, is simply saying how she had to take beta blockers to walk on the red carpet … because of her nervousness to walk …. on the red carpet. Truly, why does anyone care what this woman thinks or says? Also on what merit basis is she an Ambassador for the United Nations women’s section. It truly beggars belief. It’s so disrespectful to real women.

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Wtf? I didn't know that! How the hell is she an Ambassador for the United Nations women’s section? That's like having a Mens Rights Activist an Ambassador for women. Or an unrepentant alcoholic an Ambassador for AA. EW doe not believe in womens rights. Wtf is she playing at, being an ambassador for women? This must be some kind of a sick joke they're playing.

Absentosaur · 29/09/2025 00:04

JKR is ‘here for All the spoofs’. 😂😂

Well, hello Emma Watson
StopTheRuccus · 28/09/2025 22:05

LaurelBush · 27/09/2025 11:17

OMG. I didn't know this about Watson:

Then there was the 2022 BAFTAs. Emma marched up on stage, grinned, and started her speech with, “I’m here for all the witches,” before mouthing “bar one.” Many of Watson’s admirers took this to be a sly dig at Rowling — because nothing would scream female empowerment like sneering at the woman who gave you your career.

I've just watched the clip. She definitely says "Bar one", with a knowing look. No wonder JKR is having none of her craven attempts to row back a bit!

I’ve just seen this post. I watched the 1 minute video. She definitely mouthed “bar one” just as is stated. That’s a pretty nasty dig at JKR and it was only in 2022.

I’m like wow 😯

StopTheRuccus · 28/09/2025 22:03

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ThatCyanCat · 28/09/2025 21:33

lcakethereforeIam · 28/09/2025 21:28

Is she still on the board of Balenciaga?

She's the gavel.