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student university toilets

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cigarsmokingwoman · 24/09/2025 12:39

DD is a 1st year student at a university in Scotland and frequently comes home (she commutes) bursting because she doesn't want to use the student toilets which are apparently all unisex with urinals. She tells me she wanders the building in vain for a female only toilet and even tries going to other student buildings and cannot find them. Yesterday she says she was walking around for 20 minutes before giving up out of desperation and using the unisex one. I wonder how many other universities are the same? It's appalling. DD will not complain or cause a scene but it makes her very uncomfortable.

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Iamafricalikebono · 27/09/2025 13:55

Mochudubh · 27/09/2025 13:42

Is there anyone who has current, in person knowledge of Stirling campus that can clarify the situation rather than posters"helpfully" Googling, which the OP (who has now been hounded off her own thread) could, and possibly did, have done for herself?

I know of at least one institution where toilets in one building were re-furbed/re-configured over the summer (to fully enclosed single occupancy) and they probably aren't the only one. Info on the 'net may not be up-to-date.

Edited

im a former mature student and still visit the campus fairly regularly, there are no mixed toilets in Cottrell, I can’t speak of pathfoot as it’s been a couple of months since I’ve been in there and maybe things have changed. But Cottrell is entirely single sex, if she’s seeing urinals she’s in the men’s toilets , the maze map will help her but I also described earlier where her nearest ones would be coming into Cottrell.
the gender neutral toilets in the INTO building are full cubicles all contained onto a corridor and I would assume that is the same for pathfoot gender neutral ones but they do still have single sex too, I’m just not aware of what the mixed ones look like in pathfoot.

Mochudubh · 27/09/2025 13:42

Is there anyone who has current, in person knowledge of Stirling campus that can clarify the situation rather than posters"helpfully" Googling, which the OP (who has now been hounded off her own thread) could, and possibly did, have done for herself?

I know of at least one institution where toilets in one building were re-furbed/re-configured over the summer (to fully enclosed single occupancy) and they probably aren't the only one. Info on the 'net may not be up-to-date.

TheGreatWesternShrew · 27/09/2025 12:52

Sounds like bollocks to me. All the university unisex toilets I know are individual lockable units.

Taztoy · 27/09/2025 12:47

Namechanged555 · 27/09/2025 12:42

Just use the disabled loos. Job done.

Please don’t.

Namechanged555 · 27/09/2025 12:42

FancySheep · 24/09/2025 21:47

You really just want trans women in the men’s and trans men in the women’s and to call it job done? That works in GC fantasy land where you seem to delight in the idea of trans women using the men’s, but it doesn’t work in the real world. The Supreme Court acknowledged this by saying other provision should be made. I agree gender neutral fourth spaces can be a good option for some people, but I don’t think the general rule should be a segregate a whole class of people.

Just use the disabled loos. Job done.

Taztoy · 27/09/2025 12:26

LoftyRobin · 27/09/2025 12:20

Yes it is moot when you have said they don't exist when they do. Probably for whatever reasons you want them!

And again. You haven’t read what I wrote.

the reasons women want single sex spaces are never moot.

LoftyRobin · 27/09/2025 12:20

Taztoy · 27/09/2025 12:04

They are never moot.

how dare you.

Yes it is moot when you have said they don't exist when they do. Probably for whatever reasons you want them!

Taztoy · 27/09/2025 12:04

LoftyRobin · 27/09/2025 12:02

The reasons that someone might want a single sex spaces are moot when they have one and actually the OP did state that her daughter said that the men were essentially flashing her at the urinals. So in this case, perfectly apt.

They are never moot.

how dare you.

LoftyRobin · 27/09/2025 12:02

Taztoy · 27/09/2025 12:00

You didn’t read what I wrote.

The reasons that someone might want a single sex spaces are moot when they have one and actually the OP did state that her daughter said that the men were essentially flashing her at the urinals. So in this case, perfectly apt.

Taztoy · 27/09/2025 12:01

Helleofabore · 27/09/2025 11:54

Starting a thread mentioning another poster the way that Site stuff thread did is bullying.

Yes. Hard agree.

Taztoy · 27/09/2025 12:00

LoftyRobin · 27/09/2025 11:57

There are single sex toilets though as many other posters have proven.

You didn’t read what I wrote.

Igneococcus · 27/09/2025 11:59

Oh wow, that must be the first site stuff thread that I ever inspired and I've been on MN for a good 20 years. I don't mind being named on it btw. I don't tell people to fuck off often, when I do I mean it and stand by it.

LoftyRobin · 27/09/2025 11:57

Taztoy · 27/09/2025 11:42

How many times do you need to be told that women being afraid of men in single sex spaces and wanting a single sex space - as is their legal right - is not about “men waving their dicks at you”?

There are single sex toilets though as many other posters have proven.

Helleofabore · 27/09/2025 11:54

Starting a thread mentioning another poster the way that Site stuff thread did is bullying.

Taztoy · 27/09/2025 11:43

SigourneyHoward · 27/09/2025 10:40

You reported the post on here that you took exception to? When did you report it - before or after you started the thread on site stuff?

She’s a hypocrite in my opinion. Look at some of her posts on this thread.

Nasty to a worried mother.

and nasty in tone.

and calls the daughter a “pathological liar” when she is complicit in the “pathological lie” that people can change sex.

Says it all really.

Taztoy · 27/09/2025 11:42

LoftyRobin · 27/09/2025 09:04

Lying to your mother to pretend that you are in danger of men waving their dicks at you instead of saying "mum i am really not doing well" is highly problematic. Mum has come on here saying something silly and has been rigorously proven wrong. It's embarrassing for her.

Yes i know Costa has toilets but since we have established her uni has perfectly safe toilets for her to use, she is going there for other reasons. That is pretty obvious.

How many times do you need to be told that women being afraid of men in single sex spaces and wanting a single sex space - as is their legal right - is not about “men waving their dicks at you”?

DialSquare · 27/09/2025 11:15

Strange how LoftyRobin keeps complaining about lies but has no problem with the massive lie that men can become women. And we should all go along with this particular lie.

Coatsoff42 · 27/09/2025 10:56

@cigarsmokingwoman
theres some strange people in this world, they all seem to love posting on this board. I would not concern yourself with them. As long as your daughter is ok, that’s all.
God knows I’ve contacted people upset about something and it turns out I didn’t need to be upset, there was a solution, or I misunderstood.
It was ok to post here, people were helpful I think.

SigourneyHoward · 27/09/2025 10:40

You reported the post on here that you took exception to? When did you report it - before or after you started the thread on site stuff?

LoftyRobin · 27/09/2025 10:34

SigourneyHoward · 27/09/2025 10:26

Are you struggling on MN @LoftyRobin - is that why you ran over to Site Stuff to try to embarrass posters on FWR by starting a ridiculous thread about application of talk guidelines, without actually following talk guidelines yourself - was it a cry for help?

Not struggling as I didnt make anything up, did I? I didnt lie about what was said to me like the student lied about their only being mixed sex toilets, so what evidence would you have that I am.strugglimg? I reported something true. There is a difference between true allegations, and false statements. You understand that, right?

SigourneyHoward · 27/09/2025 10:26

Are you struggling on MN @LoftyRobin - is that why you ran over to Site Stuff to try to embarrass posters on FWR by starting a ridiculous thread about application of talk guidelines, without actually following talk guidelines yourself - was it a cry for help?

LoftyRobin · 27/09/2025 09:24

cigarsmokingwoman · 27/09/2025 09:19

She was the youngest in her year at school, but is a mature young lady and certainly isn't struggling with her studies so far. She is just frustrated at having to search for a truly female only toilet space. Thank you to all who have tried to help and understand. I am stepping away from this thread now.

Well as we established, there are plenty. It really sounds like she is struggling at uni and wants to come home and/or wait a while before joining university so said something that will make you run and grab her and take her home.

Iamafricalikebono · 27/09/2025 09:22

She is just frustrated at having to search for a truly female only toilet space.

Ifshe is seeing men in the toilets in Cottrell it’s because she’s in the male toilets (and that’s probably why they’re laughing) as there is no mixed ones in there. It’s only seperate women’s and men’s MazeMap will point them out to her, but as in my pp, there’s the ones on the right the minute she enters Cottrell from the bridge as well as many others.

I agree with @LoftyRobin you should dig into if she’s actually enjoying university, and if maybe it’s all a bit much for her especially as she’s young but also commuting in, it can be tough when you’re not making friends in halls etc. As maybe she’s hoping for an “out” to get out of going to campus.
If she’s nervous about toilets in general and is wanting empty women’s ones and is nervous something like 3rd floor or 4th floor cottrell women’s, which are always basically empty compared to ground.

cigarsmokingwoman · 27/09/2025 09:19

She was the youngest in her year at school, but is a mature young lady and certainly isn't struggling with her studies so far. She is just frustrated at having to search for a truly female only toilet space. Thank you to all who have tried to help and understand. I am stepping away from this thread now.

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LoftyRobin · 27/09/2025 09:15

Mumteedum · 27/09/2025 09:14

Jeeeeeesus @LoftyRobin you are one hectoring and tedious poster. You made a point but you're insisting in shouting everyone down.

I do not agree with you. Nothing is proven and this isn't a courtroom FFS! Why don't we assume that the young woman is feeling vulnerable or uncomfortable or unsure at the start of university not that she is a pathological liar? I know which sounds more likely.

Fed up with the derailers and gobshites I really am.

She may be feeling uncomfortable and I am not shouting anyone down, I am typing. I have been told to fuck off by users who disagree so I'd say it isn't my temper that is flaring here. The fact that she feels uncomfortable but then resorted to a huge lie about her safety says a lot about her mindset and values. I dont think sugarcoating how problematic that is helps anyone.