There's his thing called 'individualism'. On what basis an individual defines oneself varies from individual to individual & is subjective.

The categorical error you are making is the characteristics that distinguish females from males being limited to reproductive ones when its clearly not by your own admission of sexual violence being more prevalent in men necessitating private spaces.

There's his thing called 'individualism'. On what basis an individual defines oneself varies from individual to individual & is subjective.

The categorical error you are making is the characteristics that distinguish females from males being limited to reproductive ones when its clearly not by your own admission of sexual violence being more prevalent in men necessitating private spaces.

'Whoring' was, to my mind, inadvertent mask slipping. 'Karen' is totally deliberate.

Hows has no arguments and is clearly getting absolutely nowhere with any woman, so it's bait time.

Taztoy, hard though it might be, try and ignore his posts. We can all see what he's doing.

And do you see again why your claim that psychological, behavioural & cultural commonalities is meaningless as a tool to categorise the sex class of a human.

You just pointed it out here. If the sex class of a human was dependent on a changeable aspect of a human depending on a particular point in time, it renders it a meaningless tool for the purpose.

Humans don’t change sex no matter how much you wish to believe that you can change sex. You can’t.

If you can't comprehend the irrelevancy of mapping psychopathic outliers onto the average person I can't help you.

don't dehumanise & demonise trans people = "hostility towards the women and girls" 🤪

I don't see any link between my question and your response.

Can you please try again? Which of those apparently feminine qualities do you think these violent male criminals have in common with women?

I hope you are ok. Taztoy

The post you refer to is DARVO. As you have picked up it really is victim blaming.

female people - we want to socialise away from male people.

male people - but then we won’t know how to treat you with respect. And you will be responsible for that.

female people - we need space to heal without you being there.

male people - then accept that we won’t treat you with respect and accept the consequences.

DARVO

don't dehumanise & demonise trans people = "hostility towards the women and girls" 🤪

There's this thing called "physical attraction" that you don't necessarily need to 'act out' on others to prove you are.

I don’t believe you can parse ‘anti-trans hysteria’ in any way that doesn’t ultimately end up showing hostility towards the women and girls that are asking that sex is prioritised above gender when sex matters.

Interesting that you try though. However, if that had been all that you had posted, you might have been able to make that excuse. I don’t think anyone who has been on threads with you could doubt your hostility towards any woman who disagrees with you.

If I say I am gay/lesbian I am telling you that I am same sex attracted. I could be, and remain, celibate, for any number of reasons. Still gay/lesbian!

What are these "homosexual behaviours" you speak of? Are there also "womaning behaviours"?

Please list them, that would be very helpful to better understand your argument.

Avoiding the question? Makes sense….

That female people want to spend time with other female people sometimes is hardly a cause for concern that those female people are seeking ‘separatism’ as part of a movement.

And psychological, behavioural & cultural commonalities is a meaningless tool for categorising humans as to who has access to single sex spaces or single sex provisions. I think it is clear that you have tried across multiple threads to articulate your point but fail because your point is irrelevant for the premise you are trying to defend.

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I'm so sorry.

There are genuinely no depths to which these ghouls won't sink to

ive just been sick.

I can’t believe it’s ok for that person to state that my violent rape and sa is my fault because of a lack of contact.

im beyond upset that the post is standing.

this person it’s a thought experiment and some sort of game to say more and more outlandish and ridiculous word salad and they don’t care about the impact on real women. Collateral damage. That’s all I am.

I struggle enough with feelings of worthlessness and self blame after my rape. What did I didn’t I should I have done. But to make it my fault because I want SSS? That’s just beyond me.

They may overlap but are not the same thing, and while a lot of the discussion is focused on safety, the tone and some arguments hint that addressing safety won't be enough for many people to feel comfortable. Instead, a place without males is sought.

A place without males is key to securing that safety for women.

We don't want male free spaces because we think boy have cooties.

It's because they commit 100% of rapes and over 98% of all sexual assaults.

It's because they can physically overpower us.

It's because we can't tell which ones are dangerous and which ones are not until we have already been harmed.

And it's because, if we have already been harmed by a man, just being in a space like that with a member of the opposite sex is enough to re-traumatise us even if they don't actually do anything other than be there.

But you're right, safety is not the be all and end all of the argument. Safety is a good enough reason to keep all male people out of women's spaces. But so is, "We just want female only spaces."

Why is this so difficult for some people to understand? Women saying "no" should have been the end of the discussion.

De transitioners aren't changing 'back' in personality rather in how far they want to embrace/express certain aspects of it.