Is it safety or separation?

Responding to the OP's question.

Yes having some physical, social and legal/political spaces that are women-only is important for reasons other than physical safety.

It's basic Feminism and women's rights.

Living and growing up in this society all of us, male and female, are to some extent still socialised to put more weight and credibility on male voices and presence than female, and to expect different social behaviours and levels of ambition or accomodation and #kindess from men and women.

It is important in understanding Feminism and women's experiences and challenges to understand that regardless of our conscious beliefs this impacts the way women act in public, and so having spaces where we can be without men matters to us in ways that having spaces where men can be without women doesn't matter to men.

Safety is strongly related to place without males
i I think it’s also related to stress - safety from stress if you like as opposed to just physical attack. This is relevant because of the large amount of mental health issues - PTSD in particular- that many women suffer as the result of sexual violence

I also don’t think you can address safety whilst allowing males everywhere - at some level privacy is required

Me being a man in bed.

As to the vile insinuation that I have a weird interest in seeing other women naked.

That is just so far from the truth and I can only think that this particular poster is goading me for a reaction.

This Robin poster sounds very familiar to the poster who said she didn't prioritise changing with women over men and felt uncomfortable with women, too. They disappeared. Robin appears only today. Very strange.

There is a general push for "women do it, too", helped by the fact that the police categorise crimes by self id rather than sex, and the media report them using wrong-sex pronouns, so we have a noticeable increase in the number of "women" who are going around raping, murdering and putting cats in blenders. It looks like a deliberate strategy.

No, I will NOT be quiet. (a very man-like thing to say). Not ever. And no, we don't. Your misogyny is seeping though the screen.

It’s not about seeing naked women.

fwiw I don’t look and I change under a poncho. But I feel safer in an open single sex space due to my trauma.

My preference is single sex spaces with a mix of cubicles and open changing in each single sex space.

Cubicles in a single sex changing room are fine. Men (however they identify) still shouldn't be in the women's though.

Frozen out? You're spamming multiple threads and being personally offensive. Take a break.

Oh be quiet. Women always disbelieve other women. It proves im a man. What nonsense.

Nobody knows what men are plotting when they invade wonens spaces so we have no way of knowing.

Quite happy to send my gynae letter and crime number to mnhq.

Ok that there proves you're not a woman. No woman would accuse another woman of making up her story to feel 'victimised'. Victimised? How fucking dare you! Women don't treat each other that way. Only a male would basically outright call a rape survivor a liar like that and minimise her experience. Your posts are cruel, abhorrent and absolutely disgusting! And you only joined today, too. Things that make you go hmmmm.

Why do you need an open changing space to see naked people and get naked in front of others? I find that strange. Go in a public in a female changing area.

So what is you solution?

Despite the OP’s framing, the question why single sex provision is desired. There is a strong societal preference for single sex provision in specific public spaces. The preference is usually underpinned by reasons linked to safety and/or vulnerability.

The mention of trans people reflects poor communication or confusion. Trans people have a sex, and most people advocating for single sex provision expect everyone to use the provision designated for their sex.

The complication comes from transmen who pass. If they are likely to be perceived as male, they could cause alarm or distress. Most transmen who pass do not want to use provision for females, so there are few issues arising from this.

Thats what I suggested. Separated by sex with individual cubicles to prohibit communal nudity.

And I suggested both cubicles and an open changing space within the women’s single sex changing rooms (and fwiw in the men’s too). It will be cheaper to provide and meet the wishes of those who wish to use a cubicle and also those who either prefer to be or don’t mind being in a communal space.

Why is that unacceptable to you?

Enough. Reported.

What changing in a safe, private space? I'll go with yes.

No it's because you're being rude and goady, and showing a surprising lack of empathy for a victim of violence.