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Charlotte Tetley, victim of the Rochdale rape gangs has died

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defrazzled · 19/09/2025 17:15

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15114961/Rochdale-grooming-gang-victim-sexual-abuse-killed-inquest.html

Another victim has taken her own life. Why did she have to move and leave her support network? Why was her life and community less valuable than a child rapists? How can anyone make sense of this insanity, why has an inquest only started now?

Shame on the police, courts, social housing and all who failed her. Rest in peace Charlotte.

Rochdale grooming gang victim killed herself: inquest

Charlotte Tetley, 33, (pictured) deliberately sat on train tracks until she was fatally hit after battling a 'complex longstanding mental health history', an inquest heard.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15114961/Rochdale-grooming-gang-victim-sexual-abuse-killed-inquest.html

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worksineducation · 20/09/2025 08:06

RedToothBrush · 20/09/2025 02:09

It is impossible to get mental health support unless you jump through hoops in just the right way.

This means if you don't present in the correct fashion they won't deal with you. The jobsworthiness of the whole system is appalling.

It does not remotely surprise me that some of the most vulnerable individuals fall through the cracks as a result because, frankly they are so mentally unwell. It's a lanyard class bullshit issue, where those who designed and run the system haven't the faintest idea about the complexity of the needs of patients.

It's one of those where you are supposed to fit the system and yet these are people who need the system to fit them.

It is not fit for practice.

And by the time you have already lost trust in 'the system' you are already lost. It doesn't deem people in this situation worthy of helping imho.

The police are absolutely shocking in terms of dealing with mental health related issues which only compounds the problem as they end up dealing with issues due to the absence of mental health provision. And they only serve to make matters worse for many whom they deal with as a result of their poor training and understanding.

This is so true in my experience. One of my family members finally got NHS counselling. He was discharged without any human contact because he hadn't come to an appointment BECAUSE HE WAS MENTALLY ILL. No real attempt at contact or finding out why he hadn't come or - goodness here's an idea - actually checking he was ok. None at all. The whole experience made his mental health issue worse. He's fine now, but in spite of the state not because of it.

I remember at the time it was a huge achievement that he'd gone to the GP in the first place so for this to be the outcome was a real kick in the teeth.

Obviously if you're a paedophile child rapist immigrant who needs a taxpayer funded solicitor to prevent you being deported after your insulting 'sentence' for your crimes is served then the red carpet is rolled out.

Edited to add - my family member is a law abiding lovely, fairly quiet and shy white male. He has come in recent years to question why he got so little support at this time (and in other areas other members of our family get so little support now) when the grooming gang rapists have got so much state money given to them to help them stay in the country. I've got to say, this does not seem an unreasonable question at all. And in the context of the victims of grooming gangs getting fuck all mental health or other support, even more stark.

The video of 'Jade' the grooming gang survivor and Maggie Oliver on Triggernometry is really upsetting but an important watch. MO and Jade are clear that the only mental health support she's had is via the MO foundation. None via the state. Despite what they put her through. Maggie Oliver & Jade - TRIGGERnometry

RedToothBrush · 20/09/2025 02:09

It is impossible to get mental health support unless you jump through hoops in just the right way.

This means if you don't present in the correct fashion they won't deal with you. The jobsworthiness of the whole system is appalling.

It does not remotely surprise me that some of the most vulnerable individuals fall through the cracks as a result because, frankly they are so mentally unwell. It's a lanyard class bullshit issue, where those who designed and run the system haven't the faintest idea about the complexity of the needs of patients.

It's one of those where you are supposed to fit the system and yet these are people who need the system to fit them.

It is not fit for practice.

And by the time you have already lost trust in 'the system' you are already lost. It doesn't deem people in this situation worthy of helping imho.

The police are absolutely shocking in terms of dealing with mental health related issues which only compounds the problem as they end up dealing with issues due to the absence of mental health provision. And they only serve to make matters worse for many whom they deal with as a result of their poor training and understanding.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/09/2025 23:56

And obviously here I’m talking about the gangs as a phenomenon in multiple cities and towns.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/09/2025 23:55

deadpan · 19/09/2025 17:52

They were let down two fold.
1 because the police had some idiotic idea that they'd be called racist - like they normally care - if the men were prosecuted.
2 because girls (kids in general) and women don't matter, and especially those who are less well off.
It makes my blood boil when I think of how these girls were treated.
The poor kid! My thoughts go to her family and friends 🤍

I think the “fear of being perceived as racist” was more a genuine factor in why the local authority/social services let these girls down. See the Jay and Casey reports (Casey reviewed what lessons had been learned at Rotherham council, I won’t post a spoiler and I’ll leave it to your imagination). I think individual police officers were sometimes implicated, sometimes just didn’t give a fuck and the racism excuse offered them plausible deniability for turning a blind eye because it was easier. That excuse applies to all the multi agency groups though.

LizzieSiddal · 19/09/2025 22:06

Absolutely heartbreaking. Poor Charlotte, let down by everyone who should have helped and protected her.

defrazzled · 19/09/2025 22:03

I hope the inquest is thorough but I have no faith whatsoever

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Advocodo · 19/09/2025 21:11

How very sad. Hope she is at peace now. Disgraceful how she was let down.

SternJoyousBeev2 · 19/09/2025 20:58

Absolutely tragic. These women and girls have been let down time and time again. The police officers who added to her trauma instead of protecting her are absolute scum.

KilkennyCats · 19/09/2025 20:47
Sad
worksineducation · 19/09/2025 20:44

It's so heartbreaking. The abusers should move and stuff any impact on their wider family or community. THEY caused that impact. The victims should get to stay in their community.

I do not understand why this isn't the case? I really want people to lose their jobs over the failure to prioritise Charlotte. They deserve to.

RedNine · 19/09/2025 20:35

I am so sorry, poor Charlotte.

MyDeftHedgehog · 19/09/2025 20:32

Many people in authority have blood on their hands.
Each and everyone of them must be put in front of the courts to face justice 😡

Barr77 · 19/09/2025 20:32

defrazzled · 19/09/2025 20:04

@Barr77 If you google her name and University of Greater Manchester you will find a long interview with her about her mental health struggles. I will not post here because it is incredibly heartbreaking and too much. She tried so fucking hard every day for so long. She loved her child, she wanted to live. She was abused by male Police officers when she was seriously mentally ill and then denied single sex services and was frightened by the male therapist.
Charlotte deserved to live and see her child grew, her mother deserved her daughter and her child it's mother.
Every service neglected its duties and no one could see her. It is heartbreaking.

I had to stand up and kick something when I read your post. Charlotte wasn’t a “lost cause” — she loved her child, she wanted to live, and she kept reaching out for help. And at every stage she was betrayed. For some reason I had a vision of The Prince of Verona from Franco Zeffirelli's Romeo and Juliet bellowing— “All are punished” . I wish everyone involved who played a part are serves justice and held to account, but I won’t hold my breath.

Pollqueen · 19/09/2025 20:23

RIP Charlotte. I'd like to think think poor Charlotte's death may hold a spotlight up to all the victims of rape gangs and result in better care for and recognition of all survivors. I won't hold my breath though. Very sad

BunfightBetty · 19/09/2025 20:10

I’m simultaneously incredibly sad and absolutely furious. She was SO badly let down over and over and over again.

RIP Charlotte. You deserved so much more.

WhereAreWeNow · 19/09/2025 20:07

God, how very sad. Poor woman.

defrazzled · 19/09/2025 20:04

@Barr77 If you google her name and University of Greater Manchester you will find a long interview with her about her mental health struggles. I will not post here because it is incredibly heartbreaking and too much. She tried so fucking hard every day for so long. She loved her child, she wanted to live. She was abused by male Police officers when she was seriously mentally ill and then denied single sex services and was frightened by the male therapist.
Charlotte deserved to live and see her child grew, her mother deserved her daughter and her child it's mother.
Every service neglected its duties and no one could see her. It is heartbreaking.

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PrizedPickledPopcorn · 19/09/2025 19:53

Bless you, Charlotte. I’m so sorry we failed you.

Barr77 · 19/09/2025 19:52

Charlotte Tetley — failed and failed again.

So what I understand is that she in July 2023 she was forced to move out of Rochdale to Macclesfield because her abuser returned to the area.

Why on earth was she uprooted and destabilised, rather than the man who destroyed her life being restricted or moved? Never mind, I know why...

Charlotte had a long history of suicide attempts and trauma. Despite that, she was discharged from A&E and told she didn’t need an inpatient bed — even though she had said she was thinking of jumping in front of a train. She was even removed from the inpatient bed list before a mental health professional reviewed her that same day.

She was repeatedly classed as high-risk, yet the police decided not to send anyone. The ambulance service also refused to deploy because “her location wasn’t known” — even though she was known to be suicidal and vulnerable.

It’s a catalogue of failures, stacked on top of everything she had already endured as a child in the Rochdale grooming scandal. She bore the lifelong consequences of what was done to her, compounded by a system that continued to let her down over and over.

May she finally have the peace she never had in life.

Winterwasp · 19/09/2025 19:46

RIP Charlotte, Let down badly by systems that should have been protecting you, hope she’s in peace now

TomatoSandwiches · 19/09/2025 19:45

I'm so sorry Charlotte, you were let down and left to it.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 19/09/2025 19:43

These women have been abandoned and let down for so many years. What an awful indictment of our society.

TallulahLikesHoola · 19/09/2025 19:42

RIP Charlotte. Totally and utterly failed by those meant to protect you and the other children.

Dumbo12 · 19/09/2025 19:38

The mental health care of women and girls who have experienced sexual abuse as children, is so poor that it being none existent would be an improvement.

dick27 · 19/09/2025 18:01

Good grief - so many warnings there - poor poor poor woman

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