Men in women’s groups.

In my opinion he - the trans womsn should not have been allowed to join.

What you’ve described perfectly mirrors how we’ve got to this madness in the first place. Ordinary bloke is excluded - fine. Man puts on dress and says he’s a woman - oh do come on in dear and make yourself at home!

Why?? I thought we all knew it was still Clark Kent even though he took off the glasses? Why are people - and women in particular - so keen to let the fox into the hen house? I can only assume it’s moronic people pleasing.

No you have not. You have said something about the TiMs feelings but not acknowledged the feelings of the other man. Why are you prioritising the feelings of one of the men over the other?

But it being ok with you is irrelevant. To make the argument that this trans woman should be allowed to join the group because you don't mind is a terrible point to make - in a debating competition that would get you zero points. You can't argue for something that affects millions of people just on the basis that you don't mind.

Yes, they are legally a woman. But that cuts no ice with the SC ruling, which says that sex is biological. As the judges said, no one falls in love with a certificate.

So you support single sex spaces and single sex groups for those who want them, presumably?

Bully for you. Presumably you are unaware that this FB group is now acting illegally?

If they have let a man (TiM) join then they are in breach of the SC ruling because they have told another man he cannot join (non-TiM) because it is a 'women only' group, and this is discrimination. They either need to let men join - admit they are a mixed sex group - or ask the TiM to leave.

If I try to explain something and a lot of people can’t understand my assumption would be that I have explained it very poorly and that I am at fault

I have

But nothing to say about the fact they’ve already rejected a man?

Nope you have not explained.

If it is a feeling that 2 or more people can feel and communicate about it has a word in the english language or a list of words.

So far you have not explained how the women and 1 man share a commonality which has nothing to do with their bodies or how that commaonality is not shared by the women and the other man

I'm saying it's ok with me. And everyone is asking me to explain this in great depth.

Men might think one thing in their brain but that doesn't mean that should take priority when it comes to how they interact with the rest of society. He says he's a woman, I say he isn't. How come he gets to dictate what happens next?

I think she is saying lady soul not lady brain

equally offensive but since no one can disprove the existence of a soul it takes it out of the realm of scientific debate and down the rabbit hole of belief

I disagree. You have not explained the difference between the two men.

Why? Men tend to be dominant in a group of women. They are socialised to be bolder, more competitive, to take the lead. They can take all the attention. They are not brought up to prioritise being kind and lovely like a lot of women are.

I have been around trans women and they use up the space around them in a way few women do. You just have to stand next to a trans woman in a queue to experience this.

It is not ok. Plenty of women find it unacceptable. If you say it's ok you are destroying their right to single sex spaces - only of course you can't due to the Supreme Court judgement.

I've explained everything over a few pages. I'm not repeating it all.

And no that's not what I have said.

But the brain is stuffed full of xy genes isn’t it? It can’t change

I've explained all this over a few pages now. I'm not repeating it all

Well I think you are talking about the environmentally affected part of what makes us us. There is the other half of what makes us us which is our own brain.

This!

It's not impossible to feel however a person feels.

How can anyone understand how you feel?

You need to be able to put words together to begin to have a conversation

So far you have conveyed that you think that women have some type of commonality of feelings which some but not all men can have.

Some kind of "Ladybrain"

But you are no able to convey what you think these feelings may be.

I also dont think they are women btw.

so why allow them to join the women’s group? What about the other man? He could have issues about his self image but be passionate about the subject matter of the group and therefore really benefit from membership? Don’t you consider his feelings? Why are the feelings of the trans identifying man given more weight?