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Rising Christian nationalism: a threat to us all

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IwantToRetire · 18/09/2025 18:41

Article by Humanist UK, so doesn't really reflect on the impact on women although does mention abortion rights.

But I do think that our politics are far more influenced by the US, not for any deep reasons, but so much of our TV is now americanised.

And some of the fundamentalist UD christian groups have very regressive attitude towards women.

https://humanists.uk/2025/09/17/rising-christian-nationalism-a-threat-to-us-all/

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MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 01:33

Ofc the claim that Ghetto culture is the 'authentic black culture' seems even worse when you compare to US immigrant Jamaicans, Nigerians etc

MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 01:32

TempestTost · 28/09/2025 01:10

It's been some time, but as far as I recall, TS was addressing the claim that inner city black ghetto culture (gang culture, really) is the authentic black culture which came over with slaves from Africa. Often with a follow up claim that therefore it needs to be accepted or else its racist. It's usually not expressed quite the same way today but you still see the general idea in claims that, for instance, black people shouldn't be expected to be on time, or black kids in school shouldn't be expected to learn "white" math.

Sowell's claim is that is not the case that this is authentic black culture that came from Africa. His argument is that the slaves largely lost most of their African culture within a generation or two, and often what replaced it was the culture of the poor whites around them - what is sometimes referred to "Cracker" culture in the US. These people were largely descended from Scots-Irish pioneers, many of whom had been part of the underclass back in the old country. They were rural, and were not what you would consider diligent working farmers, but the kind of people who drank and sang a lot, were emotional and thought a lot of their honour, fought a lot, and only did the bare minimum of work to get by. At least that was the stereotype of them and there are some sociological studies that suggest there was some validity to that stereotype.

According to Sowell both these poor blacks and whites ended up adopting much the same religion, social values, way of life, and even language elements. Many moved North eventually to cities in mass migrations where they were often not well recieved by Northerners whatever race they happened to be.

Sowell's claim is that the problematic elements of ghetto culture are what remains of these people.

That's a great summary of the book. I read it last year and need to check it but that sounds v accurate from what I remember.

Some have questioned whether the culture of poor rural white Southerners (the ones abused as 'white trash' in books like To Kill A Mockingbird or Gone With The Wind, for those who're less familiar) would have transferred to black Southeners to that extent, especially since they surely would have spent more time with wealthy white Southerners since those were mostly the slave owners, but as I said other scholars back it up.

I remember in particular Sowell attributed the rise of the KKK in part to the growth of 'black redneck' culture in Northern cities. I haven't seen this elsewhere but I suppose it could be possible. It's an uncomfortable argument to make as it almost sounds like victim-blaming but it's quite possible to make that claim without doing that.

MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 01:24

TempestTost · 28/09/2025 01:14

No, I am saying that making lists of things that happen in the Bible - which is a compilation of many books of many origins and of many genres - in not historically how Christians have understood what it is saying is the right way to live.

I see, I know what you mean, I think : so would you say that those laws for the Israelites in the OT are not giving an ideal for conduct, but instead giving rules for a flawed situation?

I somewhat agree.. especially for Chrisianity.

But doesn't Judaism see the OT (tho ofc it's not OT to them) as law and recommendation of how to live? Tho ofc the Talmud and others varies on how to interpret it. The rabbinical interpretations in the Talmud do seem to take slavery as a given, while limiting its harshness and encouraging freeing slaves.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery

Jewish views on slavery - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery

TempestTost · 28/09/2025 01:14

MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 00:56

Sorry, I don't quite understand (a bit tired) - do you mean that I'm interpreting the Bible to be more lenient on slavery than it actually is?

No, I am saying that making lists of things that happen in the Bible - which is a compilation of many books of many origins and of many genres - in not historically how Christians have understood what it is saying is the right way to live.

TempestTost · 28/09/2025 01:10

MarieDeGournay · 27/09/2025 21:40

So the small number of Irish Travellers who emigrated to the US, and the even smaller number who settled in the rural Southern states contributed to 'issues' there?

Or is he implicating all Irish migrants in this importation of problematic Traveller customs? Irish migrants were either Travellers or they were settled people, and I don't see how settled Irish migrants could 'import' Traveller customs if they were not Travellers.

It's a confusing suggestion, but in fairness to the author I haven't read the book.

It's been some time, but as far as I recall, TS was addressing the claim that inner city black ghetto culture (gang culture, really) is the authentic black culture which came over with slaves from Africa. Often with a follow up claim that therefore it needs to be accepted or else its racist. It's usually not expressed quite the same way today but you still see the general idea in claims that, for instance, black people shouldn't be expected to be on time, or black kids in school shouldn't be expected to learn "white" math.

Sowell's claim is that is not the case that this is authentic black culture that came from Africa. His argument is that the slaves largely lost most of their African culture within a generation or two, and often what replaced it was the culture of the poor whites around them - what is sometimes referred to "Cracker" culture in the US. These people were largely descended from Scots-Irish pioneers, many of whom had been part of the underclass back in the old country. They were rural, and were not what you would consider diligent working farmers, but the kind of people who drank and sang a lot, were emotional and thought a lot of their honour, fought a lot, and only did the bare minimum of work to get by. At least that was the stereotype of them and there are some sociological studies that suggest there was some validity to that stereotype.

According to Sowell both these poor blacks and whites ended up adopting much the same religion, social values, way of life, and even language elements. Many moved North eventually to cities in mass migrations where they were often not well recieved by Northerners whatever race they happened to be.

Sowell's claim is that the problematic elements of ghetto culture are what remains of these people.

MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 00:56

TempestTost · 28/09/2025 00:51

That's a fairly modern Protestant way to look at the Bible. I think it's fairly alien to many of the older forms and Judaism as well.

Sorry, I don't quite understand (a bit tired) - do you mean that I'm interpreting the Bible to be more lenient on slavery than it actually is?

TempestTost · 28/09/2025 00:51

MusettasWaltz · 27/09/2025 21:29

I'd agree for the most part - but arguably the attitude of all 3 Abrahamic religions has been complex towards the issues of slavery & outsiders,including sexual slavery. The OT after all allows captured women to be 'married', ok, they're married rather than concubines, but still not exactly ideal.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2021%3A10-23%3A8&version=NIV;KJV#:~:text=When%20you%20go%20to%20war,take%20her%20as%20your%20wife.&text=Bring%20her%20into%20your%20home,she%20shall%20be%20your%20wife.&text=If%20you%20are%20not%20pleased,since%20you%20have%20dishonored%20her.

Slavery is also condoned in the OT- Israelite slaves are treated more leniency, though there are guidelines for both, and slaves who refuse conversion (which would free them) can be sold to non Jewish owners. It's mainly voluntary rather than chattel slavery, but still, again, not very pleasant. And non Hebrew slaves CAN be owned permanently, as well as left to heirs.

Jesus & the NT certainly can be used to argue against slavery, but Jesus does affirm the OT & Paul orders slaves to obey their masters. The NT certainly encourages compassion to slaves, but it doesn't treat slavery itself as wrong.

Islam forbids the prostitution of female slaves but does allow concubinage, and obvs allows slavery itself, though freeing slaves is encouraged.

That's a fairly modern Protestant way to look at the Bible. I think it's fairly alien to many of the older forms and Judaism as well.

MusettasWaltz · 28/09/2025 00:35

persephonia · 27/09/2025 23:39

The conversation here has been really interesting and well balanced.

There is a danger in the line of thought that goes "Christianity teaches that all human life has value and that all humans are equal in the eyes of God. This makes Christianity unique. Therefore Christians are "better" than other people. Therefore their lives have more value (or at least have more right to exist in places like the UK/America)."

Its incredibly simplistic and I don't.think Tom Holland was arguing that point in his book. And I
I dont think the people discussing what makes Christianity worthwhile/unique on this thread were either. But it is definitely a line being pushed by some on the American right/that's spreading over here. I dont think its even Christian fundamentalism, since a lot of the people arguing along those lines don't seem to be full belief Christians themselves**. It's More a weird sort of utilitarian view of religion/Christianity. It's deeply paradoxical. Actually the very idea of "Christian Nationalism" is paradoxical
But it's definitely a thing! You see very odd people pushing it like Elon Musk or even Peter Thiel. Not your standard Bible Belt fundies.

**I also think it's a deeply miserable place to be spiritually. Atheists/agnostics are often very happy. I dont think you need to believe in God to be happy..But trying to find a rational/utilitarian reason to believe in something is an impossible task. (Cough Jordan Peterson cough)

Definitely agree. Esp that it's so nice to have a nuanced discussion, thank God for the haven of sanity which is FWR!

Ikwym about the weird utilitarian version, which is worrying. Thiel is an evil man, close to Epstein among much else.

Otoh there is also a fundie version- I'll post some book recs a bit later on the small but somewhat worrying fundie types (who have some connection to the Thiel types).

persephonia · 27/09/2025 23:51

I missed part of that off. I meant to say "well balanced in contrast to the angry insult hurling that normally happens on Twitter etc.

persephonia · 27/09/2025 23:39

MusettasWaltz · 27/09/2025 21:50

Thank you. I have some info on US Christian nationalism myself. I DO think there is some scaremongering, but I ALSO think there is ar least SOME reason to be concerned.

The conversation here has been really interesting and well balanced.

There is a danger in the line of thought that goes "Christianity teaches that all human life has value and that all humans are equal in the eyes of God. This makes Christianity unique. Therefore Christians are "better" than other people. Therefore their lives have more value (or at least have more right to exist in places like the UK/America)."

Its incredibly simplistic and I don't.think Tom Holland was arguing that point in his book. And I
I dont think the people discussing what makes Christianity worthwhile/unique on this thread were either. But it is definitely a line being pushed by some on the American right/that's spreading over here. I dont think its even Christian fundamentalism, since a lot of the people arguing along those lines don't seem to be full belief Christians themselves**. It's More a weird sort of utilitarian view of religion/Christianity. It's deeply paradoxical. Actually the very idea of "Christian Nationalism" is paradoxical
But it's definitely a thing! You see very odd people pushing it like Elon Musk or even Peter Thiel. Not your standard Bible Belt fundies.

**I also think it's a deeply miserable place to be spiritually. Atheists/agnostics are often very happy. I dont think you need to believe in God to be happy..But trying to find a rational/utilitarian reason to believe in something is an impossible task. (Cough Jordan Peterson cough)

persephonia · 27/09/2025 23:20

MarieDeGournay · 27/09/2025 21:40

So the small number of Irish Travellers who emigrated to the US, and the even smaller number who settled in the rural Southern states contributed to 'issues' there?

Or is he implicating all Irish migrants in this importation of problematic Traveller customs? Irish migrants were either Travellers or they were settled people, and I don't see how settled Irish migrants could 'import' Traveller customs if they were not Travellers.

It's a confusing suggestion, but in fairness to the author I haven't read the book.

I think he identified the problems that arise when poor (white) rural communities were push/pulled into overcrowded slum conditions in cities. And then he noticed the same problems/behaviours arose in poor (African American) communities that were push/pulled into overcrowded, segregated conditions in cities. Because there were similar cultural responses in both groups to that dislocation and difficult living conditions,.he seems to assume that the first group influenced the second. When really just as likely is that humans aren't that different to each other underneath and will often respond, as groups, to similar pressures in similar ways.

SionnachRuadh · 27/09/2025 23:03

I'm afraid this is where I roll my eyes, because "Christian Nationalism" is the latest boo-term in US Democrat circles, and even if it's a thing over there - and I suspect it's very exaggerated, the religious right has been in steep decline for a generation now - even if it's a thing over there, I really despair at the kind of Brits who insist on importing American concepts that don't have real validity here.

The Humanist Association et al are doing the same thing as those BLM protesters in Trafalgar Square chanting "hands up, don't shoot" at unarmed British cops.

Don't get me wrong, there are people on the right who also stupidly import American concepts, but the difference is that nobody really takes Carl Benjamin and his friends seriously.

The only correct response to people who say there's a rising tide of theocracy in the UK is, are you high?

JanesLittleGirl · 27/09/2025 22:58

ArabellaSaurus · 27/09/2025 22:33

The Secular Society wrote about Christian Nationalism recently in their newsletter. Hopefully this will work:

https://www.secularism.org.uk/opinion/2025/09/christian-nationalism-threatens-democracy-secularism-protects-it

'For over a thousand years, Europe was dominated by a Church that defended hierarchy, not liberty. Medieval Christendom wasn't a cradle of democracy; it was a theocracy that demanded obedience. Kings claimed a "divine right" to rule, while those who challenged religious authority were branded heretics and often killed. Church courts stifled free thought, and church leaders gave their blessing to absolute monarchy. The Inquisition didn't protect civil liberties; it crushed them.
The roots of modern liberal democracy lie in the Enlightenment, when thinkers began to challenge the authority of both monarchs and priests. John Locke argued that governments need the consent of the governed and that religious authority has no place in law. Voltaire ridiculed clerical power and demanded freedom of conscience. Thomas Paine, a key voice of the American Revolution, fiercely attacked Christianity as a system of tyranny and superstition.'

2 things:

Magna Carta severely limited the rights of Kings in England hundreds of years before the Enlightenment.

The execution of Charles 1 in 1649 ended the concept of devine right in England for all time.

WhitegreeNcandle · 27/09/2025 22:47

Haven’t read the full the thread but if it hasn’t been mentioned already I think many of you would enjoy Justin Brierley’s podcast The surprising rebirth of the belief in God.

Has some great episodes about the right wing jumping on the Christian bandwagon and implications for both. Also just great to hear some measured and respectful debate between some really interesting philosophera, apologetics and atheists.

ArabellaSaurus · 27/09/2025 22:33

The Secular Society wrote about Christian Nationalism recently in their newsletter. Hopefully this will work:

https://www.secularism.org.uk/opinion/2025/09/christian-nationalism-threatens-democracy-secularism-protects-it

'For over a thousand years, Europe was dominated by a Church that defended hierarchy, not liberty. Medieval Christendom wasn't a cradle of democracy; it was a theocracy that demanded obedience. Kings claimed a "divine right" to rule, while those who challenged religious authority were branded heretics and often killed. Church courts stifled free thought, and church leaders gave their blessing to absolute monarchy. The Inquisition didn't protect civil liberties; it crushed them.
The roots of modern liberal democracy lie in the Enlightenment, when thinkers began to challenge the authority of both monarchs and priests. John Locke argued that governments need the consent of the governed and that religious authority has no place in law. Voltaire ridiculed clerical power and demanded freedom of conscience. Thomas Paine, a key voice of the American Revolution, fiercely attacked Christianity as a system of tyranny and superstition.'

Imnobody4 · 27/09/2025 22:06

Well, I found that indigestable but not necessarily objectionable.
I can't see where he wants roll back equality and the destruction of 'woke' is on my agenda too.

SionnachRuadh · 27/09/2025 22:05

IwantToRetire · 27/09/2025 21:48

Danny Kruger's defection to Reform comes with a manifesto for Christian nationalism attached.

He claims England (and I stress, England) was consciously founded as a Christian nation, that secularism has failed, and that “woke” must be destroyed.

This is not history but myth-making designed to pit Christians against others and distract from economic collapse with culture wars.
The agenda is clear: re-Christianise public life, rewrite education, roll back equality.

The real choice we face is not between Christian nationalism and a “godless desert,” but between exclusionary myths and a politics of pluralism, equality, and care.

Continues at https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2025/09/16/danny-kruger-christian-nationalism-and-the-threat-from-reform/

I'm afraid I think Dickie Murphy is scaremongering here, whether consciously or because he's spent too long hanging out with the Humanist Association.

Danny Kruger is a religious man, and he makes no secret of it. He's also got a background as a historian. Reflecting on the Christian roots of the country, and worrying about what comes after if they disappear, is completely in character for him and a completely legitimate thing to say.

This, however, is the starting point for Dickie to hallucinate a very detailed policy prospectus which he thinks follows logically from us allowing Christians to be in parliament. I'm afraid I don't take very seriously the predictions of someone who unironically describes Reform as "fascist", which not even the lunatics at Socialist Worker do.

MusettasWaltz · 27/09/2025 21:50

IwantToRetire · 27/09/2025 21:48

Danny Kruger's defection to Reform comes with a manifesto for Christian nationalism attached.

He claims England (and I stress, England) was consciously founded as a Christian nation, that secularism has failed, and that “woke” must be destroyed.

This is not history but myth-making designed to pit Christians against others and distract from economic collapse with culture wars.
The agenda is clear: re-Christianise public life, rewrite education, roll back equality.

The real choice we face is not between Christian nationalism and a “godless desert,” but between exclusionary myths and a politics of pluralism, equality, and care.

Continues at https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2025/09/16/danny-kruger-christian-nationalism-and-the-threat-from-reform/

Thank you. I have some info on US Christian nationalism myself. I DO think there is some scaremongering, but I ALSO think there is ar least SOME reason to be concerned.

MusettasWaltz · 27/09/2025 21:49

MarieDeGournay · 27/09/2025 21:40

So the small number of Irish Travellers who emigrated to the US, and the even smaller number who settled in the rural Southern states contributed to 'issues' there?

Or is he implicating all Irish migrants in this importation of problematic Traveller customs? Irish migrants were either Travellers or they were settled people, and I don't see how settled Irish migrants could 'import' Traveller customs if they were not Travellers.

It's a confusing suggestion, but in fairness to the author I haven't read the book.

Sorry, to clarify he seemed to be attributing the issues to aspects of the culture of SOME Irish immigrants (thinking back, he seemed to be describing immigrants who had some similar cultural features as travellers, but I don't think he necessarily meant travellers, or not only travellers). He didn't just refer to Irish immigrants either, he also referenced some immigrants from some areas of Wales & Scotland (particularly Ulster and the borderlands).

I understand the book's thesis sounds offensive but he wasn't blaming ALL members of those groups or generalising but pointing out specific issues which did seem to have been transferred in some cases. I was a bit skeptical but apparently other researchers think the thesis has validity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rednecks_and_White_Liberals

Black Rednecks and White Liberals - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rednecks_and_White_Liberals

IwantToRetire · 27/09/2025 21:48

Danny Kruger's defection to Reform comes with a manifesto for Christian nationalism attached.

He claims England (and I stress, England) was consciously founded as a Christian nation, that secularism has failed, and that “woke” must be destroyed.

This is not history but myth-making designed to pit Christians against others and distract from economic collapse with culture wars.
The agenda is clear: re-Christianise public life, rewrite education, roll back equality.

The real choice we face is not between Christian nationalism and a “godless desert,” but between exclusionary myths and a politics of pluralism, equality, and care.

Continues at https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2025/09/16/danny-kruger-christian-nationalism-and-the-threat-from-reform/

Danny Kruger, Christian nationalism and the threat from Reform

Summary This is a long post. For those with limited time, I argue that Danny Kruger’s defection to Reform comes with a manifesto for Christian nationalism attached. He claims England (and I stress, England) was consciously founded as a Christian nati...

https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2025/09/16/danny-kruger-christian-nationalism-and-the-threat-from-reform/

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MarieDeGournay · 27/09/2025 21:40

MusettasWaltz · 27/09/2025 21:11

Yes...☹️ I was reading Thomas Sowell recently & he argued that traveller & similar customs being imported by Scottish & Irish migrants to some rural areas of the Southern US are part of the reason for those areas traditionally having more issues. Obviously it's complex but it sounded at least somewhat plausible.

So the small number of Irish Travellers who emigrated to the US, and the even smaller number who settled in the rural Southern states contributed to 'issues' there?

Or is he implicating all Irish migrants in this importation of problematic Traveller customs? Irish migrants were either Travellers or they were settled people, and I don't see how settled Irish migrants could 'import' Traveller customs if they were not Travellers.

It's a confusing suggestion, but in fairness to the author I haven't read the book.

MusettasWaltz · 27/09/2025 21:39

Imnobody4 · 27/09/2025 21:16

I wasn't refering to abortion clinic, though I'm on the fence re the silent prayer cases.
There have been several arrests of street preachers, haven't got a list.

Met Police payout after Southgate preacher's wrongful arrest - BBC News https://share.google/3GXVjIKf9aTnY5MHC

Christian preacher vindicated after arrest for questioning Qur'an - Christian Concern https://share.google/89iV1KPk3yxcuMwvE
Police in UK compensate preacher for unlawful arrest, jailing - Christian Daily International https://share.google/AmEe7wpHav2C3remC

Wrongfully arrested and handcuffed: Innocent pastor successfully settles claim against police over ‘non-crime hate incident’ - The Christian Institute https://share.google/soxOa98PXnBWjes3N

Aha, I see, thank you. Yes, those are all very wrong. Interesting to see 3 of the 4 involved Islam. The right to preach & to offend is important for everyone. We have Jehovah's Witnesses who hand out The Watchtower near my home- I strongly disapprove of their organisation but I believe in their right to do so.

MusettasWaltz · 27/09/2025 21:32

The OT does include instances where killing civilians is permitted, though this is the exception (eg. The Canaanites).

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.equip.org/articles/god-old-testament-proponent-total-war-noncombatants/%23:~:text%3DVerses%252013%2520and%252014%2520lay,land%2520God%2520had%2520given%2520Israel.&ved=2ahUKEwj86sa25PmPAxUET0EAHfPNAHQQzsoNegQICRAO&usg=AOvVaw2U9dCjvq9mcMcFSZ6m7P7

Psalm 137 ('by the rivers of Babylon', which ends with 'happy is he who dashes thy little ones against the stones',) is disturbing in that it seems to call for total war, though arguably it probably should be taken more as a cry of grief than an instruction)

MusettasWaltz · 27/09/2025 21:29

TempestTost · 27/09/2025 01:24

While humans have a lot in common and so will have some significant commonalities in terms or religion and ethics, I really don't think that I would agree that all religions are about as "nice" (to use a facile word) as Christianity. I wouldn't think of Judaism nor Islam as the best comparators to see if that's so, either, since they are historically very closely related, to the point that they weren't always even differentiated.

Many religions saw honour as more important than love, or power. Many practised human sacrifice. Almost all condoned slavery. Many saw women and children as chattel. A great many saw killing/torturing/enslaving outsiders as just fine or even to be encouraged, sometimes in the most horrific of ways. Which mandated suicide and honour killings. Etc.

I don't mean here things that happened in opposition to the spiritual beliefs people had (or have, in some cases.) All societies of course have such things. But rather things that very much fit within their spiritual beliefs.

I'd agree for the most part - but arguably the attitude of all 3 Abrahamic religions has been complex towards the issues of slavery & outsiders,including sexual slavery. The OT after all allows captured women to be 'married', ok, they're married rather than concubines, but still not exactly ideal.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2021%3A10-23%3A8&version=NIV;KJV#:~:text=When%20you%20go%20to%20war,take%20her%20as%20your%20wife.&text=Bring%20her%20into%20your%20home,she%20shall%20be%20your%20wife.&text=If%20you%20are%20not%20pleased,since%20you%20have%20dishonored%20her.

Slavery is also condoned in the OT- Israelite slaves are treated more leniency, though there are guidelines for both, and slaves who refuse conversion (which would free them) can be sold to non Jewish owners. It's mainly voluntary rather than chattel slavery, but still, again, not very pleasant. And non Hebrew slaves CAN be owned permanently, as well as left to heirs.

Jesus & the NT certainly can be used to argue against slavery, but Jesus does affirm the OT & Paul orders slaves to obey their masters. The NT certainly encourages compassion to slaves, but it doesn't treat slavery itself as wrong.

Islam forbids the prostitution of female slaves but does allow concubinage, and obvs allows slavery itself, though freeing slaves is encouraged.

Deuteronomy 21:10-23:8 NIV;KJV - Marrying a Captive Woman - When you go - Bible Gateway

Marrying a Captive Woman - When you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, if you

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+21%3A10-23%3A8&version=NIV%3BKJV

Imnobody4 · 27/09/2025 21:16

MusettasWaltz · 27/09/2025 20:38

What do you mean by 'police harassment of street preachers'? Is this a reference to prayer outside abortion clinics? That is a complex case I haven't read much on yet. AFAIK preachers in general aren't being harassed?

I wasn't refering to abortion clinic, though I'm on the fence re the silent prayer cases.
There have been several arrests of street preachers, haven't got a list.

Met Police payout after Southgate preacher's wrongful arrest - BBC News https://share.google/3GXVjIKf9aTnY5MHC

Christian preacher vindicated after arrest for questioning Qur'an - Christian Concern https://share.google/89iV1KPk3yxcuMwvE
Police in UK compensate preacher for unlawful arrest, jailing - Christian Daily International https://share.google/AmEe7wpHav2C3remC

Wrongfully arrested and handcuffed: Innocent pastor successfully settles claim against police over ‘non-crime hate incident’ - The Christian Institute https://share.google/soxOa98PXnBWjes3N

Police in UK compensate preacher for unlawful arrest, jailing

U.K. police last week paid 10,000 British Pounds ($13,321 USD) in damages and costs to a Christian preacher arrested, strip-searched and jailed for denouncing Islam in 2022 at a renowned public speech site in London.

https://www.christiandaily.com/news/police-in-uk-compensate-preacher-for-unlawful-arrest-jailing