Macrons to offer 'scientific' court evidence to prove Brigitte is a woman, lawyer says

Brigitte Macron had three children with her first husband.
So are we asked to believe a massive cover up took place years ago over the circumstances of these births, when she was still a private citizen? Were the children taken from another Frenchwoman and given to Brigitte and her then husband? For what purpose? Just in case she married Emmanuel and became the First Lady of France at some future date?
I find it hard to believe that French bureaucracy would not have public records of exactly who gave birth to them in.
I had a good look at some photos of Brigitte, she is somewhat shorter than her not-particularly-tall husband, even in stilettoes, has narrow shoulders, good legs, small feet and a petite but shapely figure. She looks unmistakably female.

So do you think the wife of the French president doesn't have ID?

Are the accusations based on her appearance? I wouldn’t pick Brigitte out as a particularly masculine looking woman. Also Candace Owens is a Republican. I don’t know about the original accusers in France. Were they TERFs?

No, that is gender conservatives. You just need to look at the pictures of women outside the court on the day of the SC ruling to see that the 'TERF's involved don't care a fig about gender conformity.

It's possible to judge sex using hip ration, hand size and gait. Scientists can sex skeletons long after they have lost any superficial indicators of masculinity or femininity.

People think overweight women must be men? Do crowds at football think that a woman in the stands must actually be a man?

This is nonsense, mistaken sex is very rare.

It is a conspiracy theory about a high-powered individual.

This isn't everyday life.

This.

That’s what’s being argued when these accusations are made based on how women look.

When suing someone for defamation you have to prove your case. It were ever thus.

That’s a genderist position.
Femininity does not = female.

I think Sex Matters would argue that men and women have managed to use public toilets for decades without ID, and that there is no need for ID now.

The point is just that if ID is going to be introduced, it should provide accurate information.

You’ll see the issue when the ID is based on what political beliefs you hold.

I honestly can't see the problem, without this trans identified men will be invading our safe spaces. Its them you should concerned about.

Also TERFs: this woman must be trans because she doesn’t look feminine enough!

“If you have the correct ID”, if you don’t realise how alarming this sounds I think you’re a lost cause to be honest.

Gender Conservatives (MAGA) = Women should conform to gender stereotypes, sex is real

Genderists (TRAs) = Women should conform to gender stereotypes and sex isn't real.

Gender Critical (TERFS) = Gender stereotypes are oppressive nonsense and sex is real.

No one's judging anybody, if you have the correct ID you'll be fine. It's really not a big deal.

I agree, but it’s really scary how those interventions often don’t work. There’s even been cases where the perpetrator went to prison and after they’ve come out, the situation is continued.

I never said that - per my previous posts I’m not a TRA, I just hate that we are now judging women based on a very outdated view of what’s feminine and what isn’t

It didn't take long for journalists to dig up concrete evidence that suggested they were male.

But apparently Brigitte has been successfully lying about her sex for decades, including giving birth to three children?

And here it is, you don't care about any of this you don't want trans women (men) to be questioned.

This argument has been attempted many times before.

I don’t think people realise that MAGA and their ilk are not pushing for this type of thing because they care about women. They don’t care about women.

No, they are pushing for any digital ID to provide accurate information.

My DH and I had a near divorce of his use of that misogynistic slur against Michelle Obama. I don't think I have ever been so upset and/or enraged. He's never been that sort of man and when the heated row reached the point of me saying women can often look more masculine as they age and will you be throwing that at me in a few years he was horrified. He was starting to slip into an internet rabbit hole and thankfully that row seemed to shock him into rethinking. It's such a pitiful bit of nastiness I genuinely think a bit less of him now.

There is no justification for these accusations though?