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Trans row threatens to overshadow Lib Dem conference

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IwantToRetire · 17/09/2025 20:38

Sir Ed Davey faces activist revolt over party rules that allow biological men to take women’s posts

The current rules allow those who “self-identify as women” to stand for party posts set aside for women, which the activists say dilutes the chance that biological women can reach the top of the party.

The vote will be put before conference on Saturday, but it is understood that trans rights activists will try to get it cancelled to avoid embarrassment. This is despite a YouGov poll showing that three-quarters of Lib Dem members do not support the party’s stance on allowing gender self-ID.

Full article at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/09/17/trans-row-threatens-to-overshadow-lib-dem-conference/

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GrimDamnFanjo · 17/09/2025 23:58

The Party is completely captured. It’s always had a streak of misogyny but the treatment of gender critical women members is particularly horrible.

ArthriticOldLabrador · 17/09/2025 23:27

I stopped voting Lib Dem because of their inability to define a woman.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/09/2025 23:26

SmugglersHaunt · 17/09/2025 20:49

Oh the delicious schadenfreude of trouble at the Lib Dem conference!

All the 🍿

Fluffyholeysocks · 17/09/2025 22:27

It's indicative of the woeful state of British politics at the moment. How on earth the parties get tied up in knots on issues such as these is beyond me.

Slothtoes · 17/09/2025 22:24

Rise up women! Hope the Lib Dem women are able to reclaim their party from supporters of male sexual entitlement.

EmpressaurusKitty · 17/09/2025 22:20

From the article:

“Whenever this constitution provides for the election by party members to a federal committee, not less than 40 per cent… of those elected shall self-identify as men or non-binary people, and self-identify as women or non-binary people respectively.”

That doesn’t make sense. I don’t think it even makes sense if you believe in non-binary.

RedToothBrush · 17/09/2025 22:12

Trans row threatens to overshadow Lib Dem conference

GOOD!

Helleofabore · 17/09/2025 21:22

ErrolTheDragon · 17/09/2025 20:55

But won’t them trying to cancel it cause even more ‘embarrassment’ in the long run?
Having a policy which isn’t in line with the equality act is a very bad look. Trying to suppress a democratic vote to restore legality wouod be outrageous.

I would hope whatever the outcome, the media running these stories will lift awareness. My hope is that, it will allow the voices of women to be heard without silencing. But I am not optimistic.

DuesToTheDirt · 17/09/2025 21:20

Surely, with the Supreme Court ruling, the genderists don't have a leg to stand on?

BundleBoogie · 17/09/2025 21:07

It will be fascinating to witness the contortions and shenanigans that will be employed to stop this vote from happening.

If Ed Davey had anything about him, he would just change the policy anyway.

soupycustard · 17/09/2025 21:03

It would be great if they saw sense. For those in a constituency where Labour doesn't stand a chance, having a Tory/LibDem choice used to make a vote meaningful.

JustSpeculation · 17/09/2025 21:03

ErrolTheDragon · 17/09/2025 20:55

But won’t them trying to cancel it cause even more ‘embarrassment’ in the long run?
Having a policy which isn’t in line with the equality act is a very bad look. Trying to suppress a democratic vote to restore legality wouod be outrageous.

Yes, it will embarrass them in the eyes of the country. But not at the conference, which is the only thing that counts in their eyes. Like Trump, they like to win.

If you thought that I was a cynical, disillusioned ex Lib Demmer, you'd be right.

ErrolTheDragon · 17/09/2025 20:55

But won’t them trying to cancel it cause even more ‘embarrassment’ in the long run?
Having a policy which isn’t in line with the equality act is a very bad look. Trying to suppress a democratic vote to restore legality wouod be outrageous.

SmugglersHaunt · 17/09/2025 20:49

Oh the delicious schadenfreude of trouble at the Lib Dem conference!

PriOn1 · 17/09/2025 20:46

Sounds hopeful. I’d love to see reality reasserted in the Lib Dems. I guess if a small minority can hijack small parties, then a bigger minority can take the party back, given the will to do so.