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What to call the wokerati

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BottomsByTheirTops · 17/09/2025 17:06

I realise this isn’t directly a FWR question, but I’m keen to hear opinions from reasonable people.
What is a sensible term to use to describe people we might term woke and that Americans call Liberal progressives?
People who believe in gender ideology, critical race theory, term anyone who disagrees with them fascists, term mainstream (imo) conservative opinions far right and who in the USA are currently trampling on Charlie Kirk memorials both physically and metaphorically.
It’s driving me crackers hearing these people described as liberal - when they’re authoritarian, progressives - when they promote regressive policies, kind - when they seem incapable of common decency.
Woke for me fits the bill - but it’s a difficult term that can be deflected.
Any ideas?

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JamieCannister · 17/09/2025 18:06

I sometimes use "woke" with the last four letters of a word for people who are of a very low IQ bolted on the end, but that is not very politically correct.

I don't think there is a simple shorthand. They are incoherent, regressive, ultra-individualists with authoritarian tendencies and some hard left ideas but no class analysis, and who believe themselves to be progressive leftists.

They are certainly not liberal progressives. It is neither of those things to claim that women don't need spaces away from men, and that people should be punished for not using the language of the TQ+ belief system.

Justwrong68 · 17/09/2025 18:03

GCornotGCthatisthequestion · 17/09/2025 17:47

If you want people to listen to you or open their minds I would suggest that you articulate what you are actually referring to rather than using buzzards like "woke".

It's meaningless. It's used in the same way as PC gone mad used to be

If this particular group of people listened, this wouldn’t be an issue

GCornotGCthatisthequestion · 17/09/2025 17:47

If you want people to listen to you or open their minds I would suggest that you articulate what you are actually referring to rather than using buzzards like "woke".

It's meaningless. It's used in the same way as PC gone mad used to be

OuterSpaceCadet · 17/09/2025 17:39

Illogical!

I get where critical race theory is coming from.

Gender ideology comes from an almost opposite place

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BottomsByTheirTops · 17/09/2025 17:39

However are they left wing? All traces of socialism seem to have been removed from the Labour Party and the Democrats are just less right wing that the Republicans afaics

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ErrolTheDragon · 17/09/2025 17:38

nauticant · 17/09/2025 17:10

If I'm trying to explain something to someone I go with as descriptive as possible, to avoid code that baffles or turns people off, and find authoritarian Left to be close to what I mean while being concise.

Up to a point… some of these people are ‘liberal’ and ‘progressive’ when it’s a matter of their freedoms and ‘rights’, but authoritatian and regressive re other people’s freedoms and rights. Confused

UnmarketableTomato · 17/09/2025 17:36

Authoritarian omnicausers has a ring about it, particularly if accompanied by a shrug, handwave and rolling of the eyes.

teawamutu · 17/09/2025 17:34

nauticant · 17/09/2025 17:10

If I'm trying to explain something to someone I go with as descriptive as possible, to avoid code that baffles or turns people off, and find authoritarian Left to be close to what I mean while being concise.

Very nice. I'm stealing that.

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BottomsByTheirTops · 17/09/2025 17:29

Yes - neat: opens discussion too.

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nauticant · 17/09/2025 17:10

If I'm trying to explain something to someone I go with as descriptive as possible, to avoid code that baffles or turns people off, and find authoritarian Left to be close to what I mean while being concise.

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