Nick Wallis - absolutely fascinating interview

I have also just listened to this. Great podcast and journalist. Really worth the listen.

Thank you for sharing OP. What a gem of a podcast.

This is such a fantastic interview, one of the best things I've listened to. Helen Joyce getting some competition. What a good man he sounds, how I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when he spoke to the Director General.
What a thoroughly good guy.

I’m quite old now, I’ve been involved with this issue since about 2017, when you had to be really careful what you said. I hope I live long enough to see the back of this ludicrous men’s sexual rights movement.

Just finished listening. Nick's old style investigative journalism is a hark back to the days I trained. Facts and more facts. Just keep telling the bloody story until it sinks in was the mantra in the newsrooms.

It is a huge medical and human scandal. Its potential is even beyond the thalidomide scandal and the infected blood scandal. Glad he gave kudos to Mumsnet and, in particular to Oliver Brown of the Telegraph on his campaign on the sporting issue.

When, in the God knows how long future, we re-enter the real world and put an end to all this nonsense, I think we will have one fundamental question still to answer. Where, and with whom, did this lie begin? I mean who, specifically, started this? What was the first seed? To say misogyny is a plausible why, but who was the first person to say trans women are women.The very first liar.

I first came across Nick in 2020 when listening to his series on R4 about the Post Office scandal. I remember being absolute shocked at what he’d uncovered and cross that no one seemed to be doing anything. (It’s really worth a listen- The Great Post Office Trial on BBC sounds).
So pleased he’s going to be looking into the gender issues.

Good podcast. I am now following.

Absolutely superb! Thanks to SEEN and to Nick.

@Tallisker he mentioned mumsnet in this interview - talked about which aspects of the trans story could make a television series and he said something along the lines of “FWS - three amazing women from mumsnet to the Supreme Court”. He certainly wasn’t talking all the credit - I think he regards himself as a normal investigative journalist doing his actual job and being astounded that more of his colleagues aren’t asking the same questions.

Yep - that was my favourite part.
He's all over it and there were some great discussions on 'issue bundling' being a big part of the mechanism too.

Many thanks for the recommendation, I'm part way through listening. I really admire everything Nick's done on the Post Office scandal over the many years he's been working on it, and have seen him speak about it in person a couple of times. I will be glad to see what he comes up with here.

I think I heard him being interviewed on the radio just after the post office drama had been aired, and everyone was aghast at the scandal. I can’t remember if he said he was looking at doing similar with the infected blood scandal, or whether the interviewer suggested he might. It would be amazing if he could shine the brightest light on the trans debacle and the damage done to women and children, and in the infiltration of our civic institutions.

Pity it will take a man to be heard on this, but it was ever thus. I hope when he writes the screenplay he makes much of all the women who raised their concerns over many years but were ignored. Including all of us here on FWR.

I’ve often thought that the TRAs and their supporters have done a brilliant strategic job of colonising and corrupting the institutions worldwide on such a ridiculous premise. It has been quite something to see - quietly in the background at first then militantly.

If only they had used those skills and energy on something of benefit to the world.

Thanks for the link, OP.

While I found the Nick Wallis interview interesting, I went back to listen to the first podcast, which I found absolutely fascinating in how the BBC works, all the ins and outs of why and how the reporting is so skewed.

I am looking forward to hearing more from the podcast.

I'm just listening now - agree the first episode was great as well. So refreshing to hear these discussions taking place and the bewilderment (that I share) as to how this nonsense was accepted so widely by people and institutions that you would, frankly, expect better of. As a doctor I spend a lot of my time being fundamentally disappointed by and ashamed of the institutions that apparently represent and moderate me and my career.

"The biggest story of this generation" - go Nick

Thank you, OP. I'm listening now and it's well worth it.

I'm now at the point where Nick realises it's all about misogyny. 😁

He's a very good man and it's great to hear his experience.

Interesting - now talking about how the Union was part of the problem in the PO scandal and also with the misogyny of TRAs - Unions abandoning their members.

Yes, but it's the same evil, at heart, in a different package, as drives the Taliban. It's not seeing women and girls (particularly poorer women and girls) as human.

It's not complicated. I find it mystifying that otherwise intelligent people think it is.

I’m also mystified by the question as to 'why has this lie captured so much of western society'. and think it’s a particular form of misogyny of wanting to simultaneously erase and colonise women.

The ultimate control over women and also over everyone. The giddying, all encompassing surge of power of changing language and eradicating words, of seeing institutions and intelligent professionals taking up your cause regardless of the open harms being done.

Cunningly, all being done on the back of being progressive by piggybacking on the LGB and targeting vulnerable and susceptible children and young people. My own DC are very TWAW and it scares me that they cannot see the damage being done. But I don’t blame them either as the news is often suppressed.

This is great, thank you OP. I'm a few mins in and they're saying 'why has this lie captured so much of western society'.

I have an answer for that. Misogyny.

The fundamental belief of a hell of a lot of people (including some rich women) that women - particularly poor women and poor children - aren't really human and shouldn't really have human rights and are in fact an acceptable sacrifice to whatever a few men want to do to them.

The same reason as why the grooming gangs happened.

That's why, and it's evil.

Clearly JKR is the exception as a rich woman who can insulate herself from many of the negative consequences who is willing to stand up for poorer women and children and name evil for what it is. Thereby turning the same evil (death and rape threats) upon herself. For this she is truly remarkable and there are never going to be enough thanks in the world.

Thanks for this, I’ll listen later. He’s brilliant on Twitter and has been doing shows on Times radio where he often interviews people about gender issues and is fabulously sensible. I’m a huge fan.

Now it's known he's looking in to this I think a lot of people will be running scared.
I also agree with him that even though there is more reporting about this, the pronoun linked to GI renders it almost nul and void. For example the interview with GL the BBC did after his arrest, the interviewer referred to Tarquin as she. If you aren't that aware yet, and most of the population aren't, you'll.just think she was referring to a she and because GL is tall you'd think worse of his actions than you would when you've seen that Tarquin in a male whose around 6foot.
I also agree that there needs to be more of a focus on the kids and what sort of biological trauma they will end up with whether or not they decide to deliver trans or continue with drugs and surgery for the rest of their lives.

Thanks for the post, the podcast came up in another thread, but when I tried to find it on Spotify (other podcast provider are available) it didn't come up. I've now been back on to the app and it's there, so I've followed and will listen later in the day. 👍

So by trans logic, if they oppose him they are aligning themselves with Paula Vennells

It's so nice to hear someone, who's just considering facts and coming at it from his investigative way, say how mad it all is. Im sure his investigation into the capture of organisations will lead him to stonewall. But I also think there'll be some surprising influencial people behind the scenes.
I'm astounded and shocked (not) that trans supporting orgs wouldn't speak to him. Again showing that if they engage it all falls apart.