Another breastfeeding one

Best not even ask. I don't even want to know. I have found all this very upsetting. There are no safe spaces left for women.

I haven't got an 'attitude' towards women and I've met people with the same energy they've given me.

You accused her of being a sexual deviant preying on vulnerable women, and YOU want to complain about derogatory language?

Bloody Nora.

What have I said that is concerning?
Driving business? It's not a business it's voluntary I don't earn money on the group, I don't profit from it. What business would I be wanting to drum up?
I'm not anti woman I am anti trans exclusion.

Dehumanising language??

There has been no hate. I have however been deeply disturbed by your attitude towards women and your offensive and derogatory language towards me.

You mean why is she responding directly to a post online criticising her? I wouldn't suggest that is sniffing around (nice use of dehumanising language btw) as opposed to defending herself after being dragged online.

I wouldn't recommend allowing anyone to know your actual identity the amount of hate I've been sent today is unreal. Personal insults towards me, my children, my parenting etc is INSANE!

What do they need help with, if they’re not using their lactation to feed a baby?

But it's hardly surprising if there are people checking up as you have said some extremely concerning things here tonight and it comes across like you are here on the prowl trying drum up new business and then have become offensive when people have questioned your pseudoscience and anti-woman ideology.

I have to agree. I've even had direct messages asking what group I run as if I'm going run share that on an anonymous forum online especially with the level of unpleasantness on this thread. Obviously I'll provide neutral information on a variety of options incase there's a genuine need for support but now I've no way of knowing what's genuine or not and I'm certainly not going to risk exposing my group to god knows what.

Except there is because although those who breastfeed do lactate not all those who lactate do breastfeed.

But yet it's happening because people like the OP of this thread and it being posted on Twitter too. My inbox on Facebook has been full all day, it's now extended to Instagram too. Unfortunately sharing someone's Facebook profile publicly allowed for that. And you're allowed to hate on me here but it's not okay for others to hate on me on other social media platforms?

Why do you keep making such a distinction between breastfeeding and LACTATION?
Surely within the confines of a breastfeeding support group there’s no actual difference?

If you are who you are say you are then you shouldn't be getting hate sent to you, that is wrong.

Yep that's exactly why I'm here... Not at all to defend myself from someone posting stuff about me online causing a lot of hate to be sent to me personally via many different social platforms. Very supportive of a fellow woman to incute hate towards one.

"It would be a bit different if there was an explanation that there are trans men - aka biological women who identify as men in the group and a request to use neutral terms"

Genuine question- do you not think that kind of singles someone out though when they might not want to be singled out? Especially as they'll likely know that not everyone will be accepting of their gender identity or view point? As evidenced in this thread people can be quite vitriolic on this topic (although I do understand the reasons behind that).

The assumption is that people will do that maths themselves but I guess many peoples minds do automatically jump to trans women or non binary people who are biologically male because of what tends to be discussed on these topic boards or in the media. But is that fair to the person/people you're singling out though? I think from a moderator standpoint that could also be problematic when you're trying to keep everyone happy?

I am “the average woman”. Our contributions are mighty. But this, what you’re doing now? This isn’t supporting women, or babies. This is dogpiling on someone who’s done a heck of a lot to further the cause for breastfeeding, just because you don’t like one aspect of how she runs her group; an aspect that on the average day, doesn’t take up even a hundredth of the time that dealing with all this nonsense has taken up today.

The line 'not everyone identifies as female' encapsulates that...
And what rule makes you feel uncomfortable as a BAME GC woman?
How do we appropriate racism?

Its a breastfeeding and LACTATING group.
And yes, I should sure hope that a prostate cancer group would be inclusive within its language given that transgender women can still get prostate cancer regardless of bottom surgery as the prostate is not removed. prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information-and-support/risk-and-symptoms/trans-women-and-prostate-cancer

I find the post / rules comes across as aggressive and appropriates racism to push a trans agenda. It wouldn't be a group I'd want to be part of as a BAME GC woman.

It seems like they care more about being holier than thou than helping others.

It would be a bit different if there was an explanation that there are trans men - aka biological women who identify as men in the group and a request to use neutral terms.

Women have been supporting each other since the dawn of time, its really sad that you are making assumptions that the average womans contribution would count for so little. I have no intention of disclosing to you what I do in my community personally or professionally.

I have felt for a long time that there’s nothing more batshit than a breastfeeding group

I was part of one about “Lactivism” and got kicked out for a gender critical comment. I could not believe that a group that advocates for breastfeeding support and better maternity support didn’t allow me pointing out that men couldn’t breastfeed. I got absolutely piled on. It was very odd

But they don't though, this poster already explained that they acknowledge the persons post and request a slight change before it is added to the page? This is completely normal process for any moderated group irregardless of the nature of the group to stop people posting harmful content. Even hobby or pet group pages will do this in line with whatever the boundaries of the group are which you are informed of at point of joining.

So anyone engaging with the group will know to expect a wait for their post to be vetted before its posted, they'll be notified of that in advance and they'll also have already been explained the boundaries of the group at the outset... so this is not something people are going into unforeseen and it will be their informed choice to make as to whether they want to agree to those terms of use or not?