Another breastfeeding one

It does not apply to me and I am offended by it. Call me that and you will get ignored. It is absolutely unnecessary to put that prefix in. I am a woman. End of story. I refuse to use the term and make no apologies for it.

I’ve been asking it for years and never got a straight answer

I’m in a group which is mainly women with a few men. From what I’ve seen none of the men have ever policed the language of the women or taken a strop when someone has addressed the group as women. Maybe they haven’t noticed or more likely it doesn’t remotely bother them. I guess actual men

I'm not sure what you're referring to given that I was responding to another poster who was telling me what I should say... I don't have a Facebook page so I'm not sure what you're referring to with that either. I do however expect people to follow the talk guidelines of the page as moderated by mumsnet and its for them to manage what people post and I see that certain posts have now been removed for breaking talk guidelines as those are the terms of the site and we all engage knowing we operate under those terms. Which is no different than the other page being discussed.

But I do in fact have that right in my group that I created, own and run. If people don't agree they can leave. It's very simple.

Don’t hold your breath for an answer, there’s nothing but tumbleweed every time it’s asked 😁

Yes how does one align their biological sex?

Sex is immutable and no aligning needed.

Its a genuine question!

You can call yourself She, He, Ze Princess, Duchess of Royston Vasey, whatever - but you have no right to demand other people call you that.
You have no right to demand people address others in a certain way either.

I mean why would you even WANT to force it?! You know people are only obeying to stay on the group right? Why do you want grown adults to pretend?

To me you are a woman, no cis required and I’d never refer to you as a ciswoman. I don’t pander to regressive bullshit that erases women’s identity

It doesn’t centre the men.

Whether anyone “aligns” with their biological sex or not is of no consequence to anyone but themselves.

I am a woman but I'm also allowed to use a descriptor of myself when I see fit. If anyone asked me my gender directly id say female however when in a discussion about gender identity then I am a cis woman it's not an offensive term it's a scientific one that's used as a descriptive term.

I do, I am a cis gender woman. AFAB, biological women or whatever other term you want to use

Whats wrong with just “woman”?

HCPs sadly have to pander to the delusions of these people

Other patients do not

There is no requirement of certain personal beliefs to access NHS care

If there was a person in an NHS group who identified as male or non binary and another member kept referring to them as she, her, mama etc knowing full well that's now how that person identifies that would be transphobia. If when addressing the whole group they used ladies or mamas to purposefully exclude a trans person that would be transphobia.

Because you don't talk for everyone and many trans people use them 👍🏼

That reply wasn't to you was it.

Please support using those words. I have explained why they are problematic. Why do you keep using them?

Yes you get to define yourself ... You do however not get to define 57000+ other people.

I do, I am a cis gender woman. AFAB, biological women or whatever other term you want to use. I know many many people who also know that cis is a scientific term and aren't offended by it 🤦🏼‍♀️ it's a descriptive word same as tall woman or short woman for example.

If a person is lactating they can join. Same way same sex couples where one is inducing lactation can join or adoptive parents who are inducing lactation. However at current we haven't ever had a cis male wanting to join who is actively lactating or even in the process of trying to.

Verbalising what transphobia?

what transphobia? You’ve accused me of being transphobic when I was just sticking up for poor oppressed trans folx. Please do show where I have been transphobic?

No you don't actually, if you go to many of the breastfeeding groups that are face to face which are advertised online and readily available to all you don't actually know who you're in a room with or that they are indeed breastfeeding or even parents.

The male of the species does not lactate breast milk. If a “person” is lactating, it’s from their breasts, which means they’re a woman.
However this basic fact may offend some sad, deluded people, it remains a fact.

Except again you seem to have difficulty reading.. we have all of our qualifications on the group, we gave details of our training bodies and our regulatory bodies so people in the group do in fact know who we are and that we are trained and regulated. Example the IBCLCS we have are all on a register you can easily search them up and verify their accreditation.

If you went to any NHS provided group and was purposefully transphobic and was verbalising such transphobia you would in fact be asked to leave. The same way you would if you were being openly racist.